Samsung and Pentax to co-develop DSLRs - DPReview

Discussion in 'Samsung' started by Tony Polson, Oct 12, 2005.

  1. Tony   Polson

    Tony Polson Guest

    Exactly. Samsung have a strong balance sheet.

    Thanks to the vast amounts of money wasted on the MZ-S and MZ-D
    project, Pentax are not exactly approaching this collaboration from a
    position of financial strength. At least Pentax pulled out of the
    MZ-D while they still could, whereas Kyocera Yashica proceeded alone
    with the related Contax N Digital - and destroyed the brand.
    Samsung swallowed Rollei, sucked them dry and spat them out. Pentax
    could well be next.
    The 12 MP Pentax DSLR has been under development for many months now,
    presumably with a Sony sensor - perhaps a version of the one in the
    Nikon D2X. Sadly, with the Samsung development, it is unlikely that
    this camera will now appear.
     
    Tony Polson, Oct 12, 2005
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    Darrell Guest

    Hmmm, Samsung is the second largest component maker in the World a close
    second to Matsushita (Panasonic). They also AFAIK own Schneider Kreuznach
    the optical giant.
     
    Darrell, Oct 13, 2005
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  3. Tony   Polson

    Darrell Guest

    That Chinese factory is churning out a domestic market K1000 at this time.
    The Minga shows up on eBay from time-to-time, it is made in the old Pentax
    China factory on the same jigs. It looks like a K1000 with a self-timer (so
    a clone of the 1974 KM). The Centon K100 is more like Cosina body similar to
    the Vivitar V-3000 camera.
     
    Darrell, Oct 13, 2005
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    TW Guest

    It is a stunning move on Pentax part! Relying on a single supplier of CCDs
    is dangerous. If this is an exclusive partnership, Nikon along with KM are
    left outside ... too bad.

    I don't judge anything prematurely and that includes all future products
    that come out of this partnership. Issues I care most are lens backward
    compatibility, good build quality and innovative products that meet my needs
    not what they want to sell.
     
    TW, Oct 13, 2005
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  5. That's strange; the Apple Cinema Displays, which are in the first rank of
    all computer displays, are sourced from Samsung, as I recall. Perhaps
    having a partner drives them to better quality...[/QUOTE]

    Read my lips - *with the Samsung name on it* - and I don't own a Cinema
    display.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Oct 13, 2005
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  6. Don't discount the Koreans. About 25 years ago while working there I
    toured a new TV factory and saw their apprentices under the old German
    training system... they were handed a blueprint, a file, and a cube of
    steel. The Korean factories were brand-new, automated as much as possible
    and not at all dependent on low labor costs. They helped kill the US TV
    manufacturing industry, and now China is taking Korea's former place while
    the Koreans moved on to more sophisticated wares.

    It is true that for many years the Koreans jump-started themselves with
    technology and designs a few years out of date, bought from Japan. Only
    lately have Korean automobiles begun to rival Toyota quality.

    I hope we eventually see new Pentax designs manufactured by Samsung... and
    not more of the oddly shaped devices some other makers think are cameras.
     
    Charles Gillen, Oct 13, 2005
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    DD (Rox) Guest

    I have a 75cm CRT television that was made by Samsung and (touch wood)
    it's still going okay. However, everything else that we have bought from
    them has either died or is in the process of dying.

    I thought I was oh-so-clever buying a Samsung colour laser printer
    earlier this year because I could print brochures on the fly instead of
    going to a much more expensive litho printer. Ha! From day one the
    bugger gave nothing but problems. Colour shifts like you can't believe,
    toner refusing to stick on the page. I eventually fought with them and
    got my money back, but it took them about 6 months to rectify the
    situation.

    Other Samsung products we have had major hassles with include B&W laser
    printers (we now have two of them sitting in the storeroom), a
    fax/copier/printer combo, about 6 cellphones, one CRT monitor that
    renders stuff so dark you'd think you were wearing shades and an LCD
    monitor that is fuzzy.
     
    DD (Rox), Oct 13, 2005
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    Tony Polson Guest


    So what?
     
    Tony Polson, Oct 13, 2005
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  9. Tony   Polson

    Tony Polson Guest


    The point under discussion is whether Cosina made the K1000. Your
    response is interesting but irrelevant.

    Cosina have never made any Pentax products.
     
    Tony Polson, Oct 13, 2005
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    Mark Roberts Guest

    The D replacement, with Pentax's own CMOS sensor, is on track for spring
    2006.
     
    Mark Roberts, Oct 13, 2005
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    no_name Guest

    I expect you've spent money on "Samsung" products with someone else's
    name on them though without knowing it.

    This looks like Samsung is going to provide sensor tech & Pentax the
    optics. Can't tell from the articles if Samsung will be manufacturing
    Samsung cameras with a KAF mount, or if Pentax is outsourcing
    manufacturing of their camera bodies.
     
    no_name, Oct 13, 2005
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    no_name Guest

    Samsung or Pentax?
     
    no_name, Oct 13, 2005
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  13. Tony   Polson

    no_name Guest

    Or maybe the agreement with Samsung indicates Pentax is thinking beyond
    the current "under development" 12 MP DSLR.

    The *istD2 (or whatever it will be called) could make it to market with
    the Sony chip and Pentax has already begun planning for what comes after
    that.

    We'll have to wait and see.
     
    no_name, Oct 13, 2005
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  14. There's a difference between something that says Samsung on the front
    and something that another company has contracted them to make. With a
    contracted item, the contractor basically tells them not to make their
    usual crap, but to make it to the contractor's specs.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Oct 13, 2005
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    mark Guest

    Read my lips - *with the Samsung name on it* - and I don't own a Cinema
    display.[/QUOTE]

    Year folks, with randall its all about the *name on it*.
    He wears leica shoes.
     
    mark, Oct 13, 2005
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  16. Tony   Polson

    Cheesehead Guest

    Then it might be good to see Pentax doing lenses and electronics on
    DSLRs
    with Samsung doing shells and P&S stuff. After all, Samsung is big in
    WalMart.

    Collin
    KC8TKA
     
    Cheesehead, Oct 13, 2005
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    Rich Guest

    Samsung just got a $600m fine for price-fixing memory prices.
    I hope their efforts crash an burn.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Oct 14, 2005
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  18. Tony   Polson

    no_name Guest

    no_name, Oct 14, 2005
    #38
  19. No, it's not. And I never owned a Leica, unfortunately. I just wasn't
    into 35mm. More of a Hasselblad kinda guy.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Oct 14, 2005
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  20. Tony   Polson

    Chimp Guest



    How do you now?, has there been an announcement that I've missed?
     
    Chimp, Oct 14, 2005
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