Samsung GX-10 - wow!

Discussion in 'Samsung' started by Sam, May 4, 2007.

  1. Sam

    Sam Guest

    Some things are worth paying for - such as low light images without the
    banding that everyone except you believes in ;)

    So you're a bit pissed because Samsung have produced a better version of the
    K10? - that's life, try to cope.
    Sam, May 4, 2007
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    Sam Guest

    I just checked U.S. prices for the K10D and the Samsung. Straight
    body, K10D is $850 (minus 50 buck rebate), Samsung is $1000. That's
    at B&H. Not for me.

    UK prices, Charlie. The Samsung twin-lens kit sells for substantially less
    than the Pentax equivalent, and has twice the warranty.
    Sam, May 4, 2007
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    Sam Guest

    **** me!! - you really are stupid, aren't you?.... (that's a rhetorical
    question, btw)
    Sam, May 4, 2007
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    Sam Guest

    You mean that there *are* some K10D's that meter properly and produce
    images without those attractive noise patterns?!! - amazing, what an
    astonishing world we live in! (snigger)

    I daresay that you're the sort of clueless fool who would demand to see the
    hole in the Titanic's side before getting into a lifeboat - for most people,
    at least those with a minimum of three correctly functioning brain cells,
    the writing is on the wall and it's extremely legible ;)

    At the moment Pentax is standing on the corner like a Tokyo tart, just
    waiting for someone to buy her.........I suppose you could say that Pentax
    is well and truly shagged bwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
    Sam, May 4, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    For whatever reason, that Samsung is MIA, where exactly can you find
    stock in the U.S.? Kind of hard to sell vapourware.
    Reminds me of the Olympus E-400 debacle.
    RichA, May 4, 2007
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    Sam Guest

    I find it a bit odd that Samsung commands a higher price in the US - are
    they more associated with higher end cameras?, I wouldn't have thought so.

    In the UK, while Samsung have a good reputation for other consumer products,
    they would be last on the list for anyone thinking about a DSLR - which, I
    suppose, explains the lower pricing as they build up credibility.

    All I can say, having bought a GX-10, is that their stated goal to be a
    major player in this market should not be dismissed lightly - they've made
    some significant improvements to the K10D and now seem to getting the
    message that purchasers of this type of product require firmware updates and

    They have the resolve and the financial clout to make them a company to
    watch in the DSLR world. I expect their new CMOS chip to be used in
    subsequent models, and that might well get them well and truly airborne.
    Sam, May 4, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    And the Samsung only supports DNG so you need double the memory compared to
    PEF files when you shoot RAW.
    Pete D, May 4, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    Here you go again, "they've made some significant improvements to the K10D"

    just what are these "significant improvements to the K10D"???
    Pete D, May 4, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    Happy to if it was actually true, show me these photos that you have, I have
    yet to see any problems and the only photos that others seem to be able to
    show problems is where the shots are 4-6 stops underexposed, for Gods sake
    whats with that, you sound like a RichA clone???
    Pete D, May 4, 2007
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    Charlie Self Guest

    Charlie Self, May 4, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    ???? Right! So when Pentax brings out two new cameras this year you will be
    a bit surprised??
    Pete D, May 4, 2007
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    Sam Guest

    OK, my little simian, it's holiday time in the UK (I know because it's cold
    and raining) and I'm off to get lot's of lovely pics for you to salivate
    over (note!! - *only* 'salivation' is permitted!!) when I get back.

    Meanwhile, I'll let you into the secret world of the Samsung GX-10, and it's
    superiority over the humble K10D.

    Firstly, the jpg's are great - really good, and considerably better than
    those smudged things that Pentax laughingly call jpg's. That's because of
    the Samsung algorithm, of course.

    Secondly, let's talk about banding (or 'Vertical Pattern Noise', as you
    Pentax types like to call it) VPN can be coaxed out of the Samsung, and
    it's noticeable when the DNG is converted in Silkypix.

    However, open the same DNG in Lightroom and the pesky VPN vanishes faster
    than an Irishman from a temperance meeting. It's gone, vanished, exited,

    Oddly, the same thing doesn't happen when you open a DNG from a K10 in
    Lightroom. I dunno why, it should behave the same way, but it doesn't.

    Thirdly, GX-10 noise at higher ISO's (say 800 and above) is remarkably free
    from colouring. Not as 'grey' as noise produced by the Fuji S5, admittedly,
    but a damn sight better than the multi-coloured speckles that make so many
    K10D images look like something conjured up on an acid trip.

    I've read the reviews stating that IQ from the K10 and the GX10 is the
    same - and all I can think is that the lazy buggers were too idle to
    actually shoot with the Samsung, assuming that the IQ *would* be the same
    because of the similarity of the two cameras. Which, happily for me, is not
    the case.

    So. Monkey, as you entertain the cinema queues with your capering this
    weekend, you can dwell on those points - perhaps it will encourage you to
    rattle you collecting tin with even more gusto than usual, in the hope that
    you also might be able to buy one of these Samsung wunder-cams.
    Sam, May 5, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    LOL. Sam, I think you have a problem, I will leave you to sort yourself out.
    Pete D, May 5, 2007
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    Sam Guest

    Oy Vey!! - don't tell me that they've taken their rice bowl to Mr Samsung,
    and asked him to fill it with cash, again?!!! Have they no pride left?! -
    the honourable thing would be to simply die.
    Sam, May 5, 2007
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    Sam Guest

    Whaaaaaat!! - spanked already!!!, I thought you fancied yourself as
    something of a flame warrior?
    Sam, May 5, 2007
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    John Bean Guest

    I fail to see how that's pertinent to this part of the
    discussion Pete. In the UK you can save a lot by buying
    Samsung rather than Pentax - and memory is getting cheaper
    almost by the minute. In the US (and maybe other places) the
    Samsung price isn't competitive so it's a moot point anyway.

    You probably know my feelings about equipment from dpreview
    and other places, and I'm a fairly strong supporter of
    Pentax. But your articles in this thread do neither you nor
    Pentax any favours, instead you come across as an
    evangelical fanboy.

    The OP is equally silly in his bashing of the K10D since
    independant tests have shown no significant difference in
    image quality, but his point about the UK pricing is
    absolutely valid.
    John Bean, May 5, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    That was my whole point John, it was a sill post and things he said were
    simply not true. The price difference in the UK is probably the only thing
    he said that was actually correct. UK pricing for many things is off the
    planet but to use that for the whole basis of a pretty much untrue attack
    for no good reason known only to the OP and if you chack back through my
    posts I never refuted the prices.

    Pretty good post for his first post, silly me for sounding like a fanboi.


    Back to it.

    Pete D, May 5, 2007
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    John Bean Guest

    Yep. But it's a valid reason to go the Samsung route if
    you're not brand-sensitive. The rest was drivel, not worth
    the effort of responding.
    He baited you - he actually said so up front - and you went
    for it. Bad move.

    "Never wrestle with a pig - you both get dirty but only the
    pig enjoys it."

    "Don't argue with a fool, he'll drag you down to his level
    and beat you with experience."

    Et cetera...
    Good idea :)
    John Bean, May 5, 2007
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    Pete D Guest


    Seeya in the forums.
    Pete D, May 5, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    RichA, May 6, 2007
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