Samsung GX-10 - wow!

Some things are worth paying for - such as low light images without the
banding that everyone except you believes in

So you're a bit pissed because Samsung have produced a better version of the
K10? - that's life, try to cope.

 

I just checked U.S. prices for the K10D and the Samsung. Straight
body, K10D is $850 (minus 50 buck rebate), Samsung is $1000. That's
at B&H. Not for me.

UK prices, Charlie. The Samsung twin-lens kit sells for substantially less
than the Pentax equivalent, and has twice the warranty.

 

**** me!! - you really are stupid, aren't you?.... (that's a rhetorical
question, btw)

 

You mean that there *are* some K10D's that meter properly and produce
images without those attractive noise patterns?!! - amazing, what an
astonishing world we live in! (snigger)

I daresay that you're the sort of clueless fool who would demand to see the
hole in the Titanic's side before getting into a lifeboat - for most people,
at least those with a minimum of three correctly functioning brain cells,
the writing is on the wall and it's extremely legible

At the moment Pentax is standing on the corner like a Tokyo tart, just
waiting for someone to buy her.........I suppose you could say that Pentax
is well and truly shagged bwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

 

For whatever reason, that Samsung is MIA, where exactly can you find
stock in the U.S.? Kind of hard to sell vapourware.
Reminds me of the Olympus E-400 debacle.

 

I find it a bit odd that Samsung commands a higher price in the US - are
they more associated with higher end cameras?, I wouldn't have thought so.

In the UK, while Samsung have a good reputation for other consumer products,
they would be last on the list for anyone thinking about a DSLR - which, I
suppose, explains the lower pricing as they build up credibility.

All I can say, having bought a GX-10, is that their stated goal to be a
major player in this market should not be dismissed lightly - they've made
some significant improvements to the K10D and now seem to getting the
message that purchasers of this type of product require firmware updates and
accessories.

They have the resolve and the financial clout to make them a company to
watch in the DSLR world. I expect their new CMOS chip to be used in
subsequent models, and that might well get them well and truly airborne.

 

And the Samsung only supports DNG so you need double the memory compared to
PEF files when you shoot RAW.

 

Here you go again, "they've made some significant improvements to the K10D"

just what are these "significant improvements to the K10D"???

 

Happy to if it was actually true, show me these photos that you have, I have
yet to see any problems and the only photos that others seem to be able to
show problems is where the shots are 4-6 stops underexposed, for Gods sake
whats with that, you sound like a RichA clone???

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...lSearch=yes&O=RootPage.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t

 

???? Right! So when Pentax brings out two new cameras this year you will be
a bit surprised??

 

OK, my little simian, it's holiday time in the UK (I know because it's cold
and raining) and I'm off to get lot's of lovely pics for you to salivate
over (note!! - *only* 'salivation' is permitted!!) when I get back.

Meanwhile, I'll let you into the secret world of the Samsung GX-10, and it's
superiority over the humble K10D.

Firstly, the jpg's are great - really good, and considerably better than
those smudged things that Pentax laughingly call jpg's. That's because of
the Samsung algorithm, of course.

Secondly, let's talk about banding (or 'Vertical Pattern Noise', as you
Pentax types like to call it) VPN can be coaxed out of the Samsung, and
it's noticeable when the DNG is converted in Silkypix.

However, open the same DNG in Lightroom and the pesky VPN vanishes faster
than an Irishman from a temperance meeting. It's gone, vanished, exited,
disappeared.

Oddly, the same thing doesn't happen when you open a DNG from a K10 in
Lightroom. I dunno why, it should behave the same way, but it doesn't.

Thirdly, GX-10 noise at higher ISO's (say 800 and above) is remarkably free
from colouring. Not as 'grey' as noise produced by the Fuji S5, admittedly,
but a damn sight better than the multi-coloured speckles that make so many
K10D images look like something conjured up on an acid trip.

I've read the reviews stating that IQ from the K10 and the GX10 is the
same - and all I can think is that the lazy buggers were too idle to
actually shoot with the Samsung, assuming that the IQ *would* be the same
because of the similarity of the two cameras. Which, happily for me, is not
the case.

So. Monkey, as you entertain the cinema queues with your capering this
weekend, you can dwell on those points - perhaps it will encourage you to
rattle you collecting tin with even more gusto than usual, in the hope that
you also might be able to buy one of these Samsung wunder-cams.

 

LOL. Sam, I think you have a problem, I will leave you to sort yourself out.
Cheers.

 

Oy Vey!! - don't tell me that they've taken their rice bowl to Mr Samsung,
and asked him to fill it with cash, again?!!! Have they no pride left?! -
the honourable thing would be to simply die.

 

Whaaaaaat!! - spanked already!!!, I thought you fancied yourself as
something of a flame warrior?

 

I fail to see how that's pertinent to this part of the
discussion Pete. In the UK you can save a lot by buying
Samsung rather than Pentax - and memory is getting cheaper
almost by the minute. In the US (and maybe other places) the
Samsung price isn't competitive so it's a moot point anyway.

You probably know my feelings about equipment from dpreview
and other places, and I'm a fairly strong supporter of
Pentax. But your articles in this thread do neither you nor
Pentax any favours, instead you come across as an
evangelical fanboy.

The OP is equally silly in his bashing of the K10D since
independant tests have shown no significant difference in
image quality, but his point about the UK pricing is
absolutely valid.

 

That was my whole point John, it was a sill post and things he said were
simply not true. The price difference in the UK is probably the only thing
he said that was actually correct. UK pricing for many things is off the
planet but to use that for the whole basis of a pretty much untrue attack
for no good reason known only to the OP and if you chack back through my
posts I never refuted the prices.

Pretty good post for his first post, silly me for sounding like a fanboi.

Cheers.

Back to it.

Pete

 

Yep. But it's a valid reason to go the Samsung route if
you're not brand-sensitive. The rest was drivel, not worth
the effort of responding.

He baited you - he actually said so up front - and you went
for it. Bad move.

"Never wrestle with a pig - you both get dirty but only the
pig enjoys it."

"Don't argue with a fool, he'll drag you down to his level
and beat you with experience."

Et cetera...

Good idea

 

Cheers.

Seeya in the forums.

 

Damn! I was just at a camera show, didn't see the thing at the
Samsung booth. Would have been nice to compare it directly to the
Pentax.