Discussion in 'Scanners' started by neutron, Nov 22, 2005.

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    neutron Guest

    greetings. i am a film - 2 1/4 photograper and i would like to post
    some of my photos on the web.

    my question is do i need a good scanner to do thhis. of course we are
    talking about money

    please advise the least expensive model that would still give me very
    good results.

    i don't want something that will not make my photos look good.

    thank you! neutron
    neutron, Nov 22, 2005
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    uw wayne Guest

    If you just want something to post on the net buy any cheap scanner
    that will take medium format, a lower cost flat bed scanner. If you
    want to scan and print, upgrade. Nikon film scanner will be outstanding
    but expensive. Get a flat bed as a compromise.
    uw wayne, Nov 23, 2005
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    Matt Clara Guest

    A good compromise is the Epson 4990. Certainly more than good enough for
    web pics, with the ability to make digital files worthy of print:
    Matt Clara, Nov 23, 2005
  4. If you have good prints of above proof size, you can do a decent job
    for web display with nearly any flatbed scanner.

    If you want to scan the slides/negatives and work from there
    (essentially doing the "printing" process of color and density control
    in Photoshop), then you need a considerably better scanner.

    Start from what size you want to put the photos on the web at -- let's
    say you want a photo to fit within a 600x600 pixel square on the
    screen (many people choose a smaller size than that). Now consider
    what size your negatives are, and calculate the number of pixels per
    inch on the negative you need to scan at.

    Actually, I'd scan at 1.5x or 2x that resolution, based on my
    experience of working from film.

    To get that, you need to scan at (600*2) / 2.25 pixels per inch, or
    533 pixels per inch. So, as you can see, you don't need an especially
    high-resolution scanner to do this job.

    What you *do* need is a scanner that produces *good* pixels, and a
    scanner that's capable of handling the max density of what you've got
    -- slides having a much higher dmax than negs, of course, and being
    correspondingly harder to scan.

    The "best" choice is a medium format dedicated film scanner, which
    will be *far* better than you need for this and very expensive, but
    will give you the best results you can get yourself. (Well, you
    *could* buy a first-rate drum scanner and learn how to use it, but
    let's be reasonable.) The Nikon Super Coolscan 9000 ED should be
    marvelous. It does cost nearly $2000, though.

    The much more affordable choice is a flatbed scanner with transparency
    adapter (well, they tend to be built-in these days). These will have
    perfectly adequate resolution; what you'll need to look for is one
    that has good enough dmax. Epson makes some reasonable choices last I
    checked. I'm using an old Microtek that works pretty well even for
    moderate sized prints.
    David Dyer-Bennet, Nov 23, 2005
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    DD Guest

    Look at the Konica Minolta Dimage Scan Dual IV. It will do what you want
    and it only costs $230 at B&H. Very good value, but you will have to
    clean up the dust and scratches yourself as it doesn't have digital ICE.
    DD, Nov 23, 2005
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    neutron Guest

    sorrry folks, i screwed up the question (or maybe not) i thought you
    can take the finished picture and scan that. i wasn't asking about film
    scanners.but is that necessary? so i don't confuse you again" i want to
    take the finished print put it onthe scanner (flatbed) and have it on
    the web. thanks for your patience
    neutron, Nov 23, 2005
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Any half decent scanner is good enough to do that. I'd still look towards
    the Epson line, and if you can swing the $400 for the 4990, you won't be
    found wanting when you do want higher quality scans to edit in Photoshop and
    send to print. Buy once, as they say.
    Matt Clara, Nov 23, 2005
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    Dave Guest

    Well, you could buy a film scanner. I have the Minolta 5400. It is an
    excellent scanner with good dynamic range but it is expensive and the
    software has lots of quirks. It takes about 20 minutes to scan one slide at
    high quality and it needs a lot of memory with a fast computer.
    If you are planning on scanning just a few pics I would think about just
    having a store do it for you. You should try a few stores to find out how
    much it would cost. Typical cost is $1-5 per slide, maybe not the best
    quality but adequate. If you plan to scan fewer than a hundred slides it
    might be better to do a one-at-a-time job. You'll have more cash for other
    things, and when you switch to digital you won't have a dinosaur on your

    Dave, Nov 25, 2005
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    Mark² Guest

    I just bought the 4990 to scan a large pile of old photos.
    It's doing a fine job, and offers decent control over the scanning process
    with included drivers, accessed through Photoshop import.
    Mark², Nov 26, 2005
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    Matt Clara Guest

    I've just developed my first large format negatives, and I'm torn between
    buying a large format enlarger or the 4990--I want both, of course, and will
    probably eventually have both, particularly with the drop in prices in dark
    room equipment. The major consideration now is space, and I'm pretty sure
    the 4990 won't hit the joyces in my basement like a large format enlarger
    Matt Clara, Nov 26, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Alan Browne, Nov 27, 2005
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    That_Rich Guest

    Matt may have a few women named Joyce living down there.

    That_Rich, Nov 27, 2005
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    Dave Guest

    Oops, I just noticed that you shoot 2 1/4 -- I don't think the minolta
    5400 will handle that size of negs. You were thinking about scanning
    prints. There are a lot of flatbed scanners that will do that job,
    as long as you aren't going to try to print them again after digital
    photomanipulation (too many steps, with error introduced
    at each step). For just web posting, a print scanner should
    work ok. However I would caution against flatbed scanners that
    claim to be able to scan slides/negs. The ones I have looked at
    do a hopeless job. I have the hp 5470c, which is a reasonable
    scanner for prints etc. It does a terrible job at scanning negs.

    Dave, Nov 29, 2005
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