Schneider loupes

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by geletine, Sep 6, 2005.

  1. geletine

    geletine Guest

    I'll proberly get it from warehouse express or Robert white, what is
    the diffrence between 4X and 6X for 35mm slides?

    They is about £50 diffrence between them.
    geletine, Sep 6, 2005
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  2. geletine

    Tony Polson Guest

    One has 4X magnification, and the other 6X. They both have full frame
    coverage of a 35mm slide or negative. The 6X is much more expensive
    to make.

    Most other brands' 6X loupes only cover a portion of the 35mm frame,
    so they can be made much more cheaply - usually at about the same
    price as a 4X full frame loupe.

    My experience is that a 6X loupe is not very useful. You need 8X to
    check fine detail, and viewing a whole slide at 4X is easier on the
    eye than with 6X. I do a lot of work on the light table and, for me,
    eye strain would be a problem with the 6X. So I use a 4X and an 8X,
    one to view the whole slide/negative and the other to check detail.

    To keep costs down, you can save money by buying a cheaper high
    magnification loupe. For example, buy the Schneider 4X plus a Cabin
    or Ohnar 8X for the price of the Schneider 6X alone.

    The Horizon 8X and 10X are quite good. Even something like the Agfa
    8X plastic doublet is perfectly adequate for examining detail, where
    you only use the centre of the loupe's coverage. You only need top
    class optics when you are using the loupe's entire angle of view, when
    the colour fringing at the edges that is common in cheaper loupes
    would annoy.

    You will not be disappointed with the Schneider 4X. It is optically
    outstanding. A cheap 8X would be a good companion, and you can always
    upgrade it to a Schneider 8X at a later stage.
    Tony Polson, Sep 6, 2005
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  3. Yes. I have a Peak 8x which gives me full view of a 35 mm slide, without
    noticeable distortion corner to corner. (It has three lens compensation, I
    believe) It only cost about $50, but it will do the job for me until I can
    afford a very high end viewer.
    William Graham, Sep 7, 2005
  4. geletine

    Guest Guest

    Depending on where you live you can sometimes find a Peak 8x for around
    $25. I paid 50 for mine years ago but now they have come down. Try ebay
    or camera co-op in Austin use to have some new old stock for 20 bucks if
    I recall. May still have one or two.
    Guest, Sep 7, 2005
  5. geletine

    geletine Guest

    I ordered the schneider x4 from warehouse express, now i need a light
    box, jessops seem to have a 4X5 with a ac adapter included, i don't
    need a bigger light box, after all i be viewing one slide at a time.
    geletine, Sep 7, 2005
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    Tony Polson Guest

    The Peak is a very good loupe, in the same quality bracket as Ohnar
    and Cabin. They may even be related. The Horizon loupes are also
    good, but maybe not as good as these.

    Another excellent loupe is the Mamiya 5X, which covers the whole of a
    6x4.5cm medium format negative and almost covers 6x6cm. It is very
    useful for looking at prints.
    Tony Polson, Sep 7, 2005
  7. geletine

    Tony Polson Guest

    There is huge variety in lightboxes. You should get something
    significantly bigger than 4x5 because, before long, you will want to
    compare several slides/negs.

    I also suggest that Jessops is probably not the best place to be
    looking for a lightbox, but that depends on where you live because
    there may be no other alternatives. Whereabouts are you?
    Tony Polson, Sep 7, 2005
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    geletine Guest

    I live about 1 hour from London , england
    geletine, Sep 8, 2005
  9. Some years ago I "rescued" the complete set of lenses which had been
    supplied with a multi-format Regma Microfilm Reader/printer bought in the
    1970s. (The unreliable printer part had failed yet again and the kit was
    destined for land-fill.)
    So I've got easy access to a wide range of top quality Minolta lenses from a
    nominal x45 to x4 (in microfilm speak).
    For viewing slides, I find the one labelled "x8 x11" most useful for near
    full frame views, and the "x45" if I'm on a grain/ultimate detail search.

    Might be worth others keeping a look-out as these items occasionally turn up
    at Camera Fairs, and go for low prices.
    Malcolm Stewart, Sep 8, 2005
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    Tony Polson Guest


    The doyen of light boxes is the Gretag-Macbeth Prooflite, whose colour
    temperature and evenness of illumination are beyond reproach. Trying
    to find one in the UK is not easy, but there is one available from
    this US seller for $125 (about £70) - expect to pay about £35 for
    airmail postage, then allow about 28-30% of the total for import duty
    and VAT. You may need to purchase a separate AC adapter for 230V, as
    the US supply is 110-120V. You can probably get a stabilised supply
    from Maplin Electronics but **do check first**!!

    In the UK, Warehouse Express have the GePe light boxes, which work
    well and are very good value. I would recommend the G2004 with a
    viewing area of 20 x 30cm - about the size of an A4 page, and capable
    of displaying up to 24 mounted 35mm slides. It costs £79.99. If you
    wish to pay less, there are smaller versions starting at £34.99. All
    are slim, low voltage lightboxes with AC adapters:

    Hama light boxes offer no particular advantages over GePe, and the AC
    adapter is extra:

    The same supplier also has a good selection of Kaiser light boxes. I
    use the Kaiser Prolite 2423 High Frequency (£216.99) which has a 20 x
    30 cm viewing area and flicker-free lighting - essential only if you
    use the light box for extended periods, which I do. A cheaper version
    (2403) with normal 50Hz tubes is available at £129.99 and this would
    be a good buy. Compared with the slim GePe boxes, the Kaiser is
    thicker and heavier, but the illumination is very, very even.

    I also use a large (A1 size) light box from DW Lighting but this is
    probably larger than you will need. I use it for evaluating and
    comparing large format slides, shot on 4x5 inch sheet film. But for
    detail work I use the Kaiser, as it is very restful to use.

    It may also be worth searching for light boxes on eBay UK.

    There is no better way to view slides than on a good lightbox with a
    top quality loupe. Enjoy!!

    Tony Polson, Sep 8, 2005
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