Searching simple MPEG editor just for cut, paste and delete parts of a mpeg movie

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Carl Minter, Feb 20, 2004.

  1. Carl Minter

    Carl Minter Guest

    As the subject said: I am searching for a simple MPEG mvodie editor.
    It should be able to handle cuts , pastes and deletes inside the movie.

    Unfortunately with TMPGenc I am NOT able to delete chunks/parts inside a movie. Read: I would like to
    leave the introduction and the final part at the end and remove something in between.
    Furthermore TMPGenc does not allow me to position on an exact frame.

    VirtualDubMPEG does allow this but requires to reencode the whole movie to avi.

    On the other hand I do not need (want) such overhead with balancing, crossfading channel modelling ...
    of those big video editing software packages.

    Does someone know such a handy tool?

    Carl Minter, Feb 20, 2004
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  2. crossfading channel modelling ...
    I use mpeg-vcr. I use it to cut out commercials from tv captures. Great for
    that but i'm sure it could do more.
    Sender Of Message, Feb 20, 2004
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  3. Carl Minter

    RickT Guest

    Their Video Wizard 2003 is also great for this kind of work.
    MPEGs can be edited with no demuxing or re-encoding.

    RickT, Feb 20, 2004
  4. Well, you can do it without any problem, but not in one step.
    Dont expect too much! ;-)
    Isnt this a general problem/feature of MPEG, that it organises
    frames in groups?

    H. -- Sort of MPEG Video Playlist FAQ.
    Heiko Recktenwald, Feb 20, 2004
  5. Carl Minter

    Toshi1873 Guest

    Correct. MPEG2 can only be edited at key-frames (every 18th frame?) In
    order to edit at the exact frame you need to have an AVI file with a
    codec like HuffYUV or MJPEG.
    Toshi1873, Feb 21, 2004
  6. Carl Minter

    Bariloche Guest

    What mpeg-vcr probably does, if you wantto cut at a P- or B-frame, is
    re-encoding just the few frames of the first (and may be last) GOP. It
    involves some small degradation of quality, bust just for a few
    Bariloche, Feb 21, 2004
  7. Carl Minter

    Ken Maltby Guest

    crossfading channel modelling ...
    If you are talking about a movie you intend to make
    a DVD or Mini-DVD; have you tried making the cuts
    during the author process? TMPGEnc DVD Author
    allows you to make multiple cuts; as you say, they well
    be on I frames. If your movie was commercially
    produced, there should be transitions between scenes
    which well greatly reduce the impact of not being able
    to do frame accurate cuts.

    Have you tried cutting everything except the part at the
    end; saving that. Reloading the original "movie" and then
    cutting everything from the start of the "bad" part through
    the end. Then add/join the previously saved "End clip".

    This is sorta the approach if you just have a splitter, and
    use a separate joiner.

    Any of the MPEG editing SW that claims "Smart Encoding"
    capability (like the Womble products or CyberLink's PP)
    can do frame accurate cuts with little re-encoding.

    Ken Maltby, Feb 21, 2004
  8. Sounds like maybe you want to cut out some commecials. I do that all the
    time with mpeg2 files I capture with Beyond TV software. The editor I use is
    called Mpeg-vcr.
    Sender Of Message, Feb 22, 2004
  9. Thanks! I think MPEG1, that I am more familiar with, anyway, we can
    put both into bla.mp4s with Ciscos open source MPEG4IP mp4creator,
    is organised into "GOPs" too. One of the things you never touch in
    the mpeg_encode Parameter file. 16? Such a well commented/explained
    file is not a bad GUI, see also midi2cs.

    We can put bla.mp3s into bla.mp4s as well, rtsp://bla/bla.mp4s with
    Apples Darwin Streaming Server offer a lot, and I would like
    the MPEG tools in TMPEGEnc to include something like mp4creator.
    Its open source and Cisco will be happy to join forces.

    Best, H. -- etc.
    Heiko Recktenwald, Feb 22, 2004
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