Securing a pass to photograph an event???

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Pictures, Feb 6, 2006.

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    Pictures Guest

    Not being a professional photographer working for a company, how does one go
    about securing a pass to photograph an event? I know there is no one
    definitive answer to this question, but I see there are photographers in
    here from all over the world who can provide their personal howto's and life
    experiences.

    Thanks in advance.

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    CoolAzzRob***

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    Pictures, Feb 6, 2006
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    UC Guest

    What 'event' are you talking about?

    Press credentials are necessary to photograph events that require press
    credentials. (DUH!)

    If no press credentials are required, you don't need a pass!
     
    UC, Feb 6, 2006
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    Hunt Guest

    Contact the promoter of the event and ask for the credentialling requirements.
    If they are not warm to the prospect of getting credentials to you, offer your
    services to them. Many will simply have you fill in their paperwork, while
    others will ask to see your "tear sheets," and portfolio.

    Beyond that, find someone, who has an "in" with the promoter and work that
    way.

    Hunt
     
    Hunt, Feb 6, 2006
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    Sheldon Guest

    You need to find out what their requirements are. Often a pass can be
    obtained by calling a magazine and telling them you will cover the event for
    them, and usually you might get the credentials but you won't get paid
    unless they actually use something.

    I got credentials to cover a Grand Prix from Car and Driver, based on my
    portfolio, but a friend of mine who was there got his credentials through
    Women's Wear Daily, or something like that. He was definitely there to get
    picture of the cars, but said all he had to do was take some photos of a few
    beautiful women who were dressed well to fulfill his obligations -- not hard
    to find at an international race.

    BTW, Car and Driver paid something like $30 a picture at the time. They
    said wealthy people with nothing else to do travel all over the world and
    supply them with all the photos they need, in return for credentials.

    Never hurts to ask.
     
    Sheldon, Feb 6, 2006
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  5. Typical intelligent informative answer

    Do we expect anymore?
     
    Bill & Kel Turnbull, Feb 8, 2006
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    Pictures Guest

    Thanks. I really appreciate you guys dealing with my questions. Even
    though the answers may seem obvious to some of you, I am new to this and
    still learning. I will be prone to asking questions which may seem beneath
    you or just plain dumb. Sometimes I am asking because I do not know and
    other times I will be asking to make sure what I think to be correct
    actually is.
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    CoolAzzRob***

    www.rollingbluethunder.com/
    Rolling Blue Thunder Productions, Inc.
    Still Doing What It Do!
     
    Pictures, Feb 8, 2006
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    D4 Guest

    FFS, wealthy people with nothing else to do? Sod off you wealthy
    people and let us pro photographers get on with doing our job and
    earning our living.

    It's idiots like this who 'do it for not much money' that are stopping
    us from earning our living.

    Scum !!!!!!!!!!
     
    D4, Feb 11, 2006
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    UC Guest

    Yeah! Why not do some orthodontia to get even?
     
    UC, Feb 12, 2006
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    Neil Ellwood Guest

    You can earn your living by being better than those 'idiots' and if you
    can't then try another trade.
     
    Neil Ellwood, Feb 12, 2006
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    D4 Guest

    I AM better than those idiots, my point is editors get images from
    those idiots cheap because the idiots just like to see their images in
    print and do not really have the requirement to be paid that much.

    Editors then either beleive they can pay everyone lower rates or rely
    on the stream of free pics from the idiots.

    Either way, the poor guy/gal who is better than the idiots but is
    trying to make a living taking photographs, suffers.

    I wonder what would happen to the idiots businessis if us pro
    photographers had a go at setting up in their business and doing it
    cheap/free?

    Maybe we have a go at being a lawyer or dentist or plastic surgeon or
    property developer. We have no qualifications or experience in those
    trades, but what the hell, we'll do it mega cheap then every punter
    will expect every lawyer to charge £/$5.00 an hour.
     
    D4, Feb 12, 2006
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    miles Guest

    Bad analogy. People are willing to pay more if they get more. If your
    work was superior then it would attract more money. Why would anyone
    pay megabucks to you if someone else did just as well for less? Market
    value ya know!
     
    miles, Feb 12, 2006
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    D4 Guest


    So explain why the BBC and Sky TV and newspapers like the Daily
    Telegraph openly ask members of the public to send in their mobile
    cameraphone pics. They will not pay for these pics, they will assume
    that they can do with them as they like without asking you and if they
    get sued in any way in connection with the oics then the person who
    took them is liable NOT the BBC or Sky TV pr the Daily Telegraph.

    In other words, we want your pics free.

    Strangly enough, freelance photography rates at many british newspapers
    have not increased in the last 10 years. Why? maybe the pic desks are
    getting pics for free and see no need to have to raise freelance rates.

    Look at the London bombings in 2005. There were syuperb quality por
    photographer shots taken but TV stations and newspapers chose to go
    with images taken on cameraphones by the 'idiots' free of course.
     
    D4, Feb 12, 2006
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    UC Guest

    What photographers do can usually be done quite well by amateurs with
    half a brain.
     
    UC, Feb 12, 2006
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    D4 Guest

    And that applies to lawyers and dentists and property developers as
    well. But I bet they'd close ranks if this type of thing happened in
    thier industry!


    BTW, are you pulling down the brains of photographers in a photographic
    newsgroup? That'll be popular
     
    D4, Feb 12, 2006
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    Bill Funk Guest

    Because the people with their cell phones are there, on the scene,
    when the action happens. It's unreasonable to expect pros to be there,
    isn't it?
    On other words, they want the pics that are available.
    If a bomb goes off, a pro who gets there 15 minutes *after* it goes
    off can't get the pics immediately after it goes off.
    But those "idiots" where there when the bombings happened. They got
    the pics immediately, and their pics showed what the people who were
    there saw.
    *That's* what the papers wanted, it's what they got, and the people
    who gave away their pics were happy to see their names in the papers.
     
    Bill Funk, Feb 12, 2006
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    Bill Funk Guest

    Really? You want *me* to look after your teeth? Or defend you in a
    felony case? Or sell your property?
    Why?
     
    Bill Funk, Feb 12, 2006
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    UC Guest

    What brains?

    You cannot be serious...

    I could have more interesting conversations with plankton...
     
    UC, Feb 12, 2006
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    dj_nme Guest

    I think that you missed the point that [email protected] made.
    If amautures started doing these other fields of work, then the existing
    qualified people and their professional bodies would "close ranks" and
    not give them the time of day or give them access to any part of the
    business that they control.
    My hypothetical example is extreme, but apt:
    Newspapers using snapshots by non-professionals is like the British
    Medical Journal accepting articles from Joe Public because the are so
    much cheaper than paying for the rights to an article by trained medical
    professionals.
    Also:
    Would you trust Joe Public with his cellphone to take pictures at your
    wedding?
     
    dj_nme, Feb 13, 2006
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    miles Guest

    You really have to ask this question???? Since when do pro
    photographers just happen to be on the scene setup to photograph
    unplanned sudden events? Even amature photographs aren't usually there
    with their camera gear. But there are people with camera phones.

    Do you happen to know about these unplanned events such as the London
    subway bombing in advance and have all your equipment setup? CNN asked
    for viewers to send in their camera pics because THEY WERE THERE!!
     
    miles, Feb 13, 2006
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    miles Guest

    If a skilled dentist charged less or was free then they would have
    plenty of business. You have yet to explain to me why anyone should pay
    you if someone else did what I needed for less? What you are telling me
    is that your pics are not of superior quality to warrent a higher price.
    You want more money, then deliver a better product thats needed and
    you'll get it.
     
    miles, Feb 13, 2006
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