Seeking advice and help: Reprographic home set-up.

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Genecks, Mar 11, 2006.

  1. Genecks

    Genecks Guest

    I built a copy stand out of PVC to enable myself to take pictures of
    materials to copy.
    - http://csigizmos.com/products/photography/photostand.html

    This PVC copy stand is starting to annoy me because the shaft keeps
    shaking.
    I require a better copystand. I'm looking for something preferably
    home built, out of woods, and more study. The camera shake is not very
    serious, the lighting gives me more problems. The only lighting I have
    is overhead lighting.

    I'm copying an old textbook. I have read from different sources that
    working under the sun is the best for lighting to get a full spectrum
    of colors and results. However, when I take a photograph of the picture
    indoors there is glare.

    The glare, I assume, is caused by the overhead lights in my basement. I
    put a bedsheet over them both, but the results were very view as a bit
    of glare did appear.

    I was questioning the results I would obtain if I were copy this book
    in the sun. Would there be less glare? The glare is not on the camera
    lense, the glare is on the book. Would I still get glare if I worked in
    the sun?

    How does the sun as lighting and reprography work?
    Is it a more affordable and natural+better result?

    I'm often low on cash, so I don't have much money to buy an extravagent
    reprographic copy stand. Nor do I have the ability to buy an SLR. I'm
    using a fujifilm A350 (which is not the best but what I have).

    I read about getting a polarized lense for my camera. I don't know how
    that would work since my camera lens extends and retracts. Would it
    have some type of rubber/foam stopper fixture to stay on the lens?
     
    Genecks, Mar 11, 2006
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    Genecks Guest

    On another note, the pictures I have taken turned out pretty bad.

    There were some good pages that took plenty of time to perfect. I
    decided to double snap-shot each page; Throw away the bad and keep the
    good page. This saved time on hurting the book I was doing. However,
    many of the pages were grayish--not bright and white.

    The page was gray, the text was black. Things seemed grayish because of
    the light settings of doing things indoors. The pages seemed to do
    better as I cast a bodily shadow over them to decrease glare. This
    however, is a very tedious and demanding physical task. I wish to find
    an easier way of decreasing glare. Glare is my worst enemy in this
    photographic project I have been doing for a week now.

    Some pictures do turn out decent when I knock up the EV of my digicam.
    However, the downside is that many paragraphs seem washed out with
    light; They become unreadable. I become forced to have a grayish
    reading page. I worry that going that another revolution through the
    old pages would create harsher wear for it.

    Also, I was recommended to buy a couple of desk lamps. This seemed a
    wise idea as they are somewhat inexpensive. Yet, I don't know what
    wattage or type of bulb to use.

    I'm copying pages of about 10x11 inches; Far too large to use on a
    scanner bed.
     
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    aussie bongo Guest

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    instead of making the stand out of PVC TUBING why not replace it with 15mm
    coper pipeing??? most DIY and PLUMBING shops carry the pipes and fittings
    and it is cheap to build
     
    aussie bongo, Mar 11, 2006
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    Genecks Guest

    That seems like a good idea. I believe the extra weight provided by a
    dense and heavier tubing would create a more steady environment. The
    next problem is the lighting. I wonder if it would be wise to build
    another copy stand or possibly buy a good one that costs money.

    I do think the copper tubing would not damage the copy stand as much as
    a plastic and flimsy metal copy stand would.

    The reason i have not done the copper stand is because of my lack of
    research and development into it. I have arm-chair thought upon the
    shaft and the ability to lower and raise the camera from a
    counter-closewise down position with the lens facing the ground. I
    assume such agents as grease or other mechanical being would have to be
    used in order to make alterations to the shaft..
     
    Genecks, Mar 11, 2006
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    dadiOH Guest

    You could certainly make one of wood but something using plumbing pipe
    and fittings would be easier. Someone suggested 15mm copper but - IMO -
    that is too small. I'd probably use 1 1/2 to 2" steel pipe....there
    would be enough mass so you wouldn't get shake/vibration. You could...

    1. Fasten a flange to a board

    2. Screw a length of pipe to the flange. There are pipe sizes that will
    fit within each other so you could drill and tap a hole at the top of
    the piece of pipe and use a thumb screw to hold another piece that
    slides up and down within the first piece for height adjustment.
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    Neither overhead lighting nor sun is suitable. The overhead light is
    reflecting from the book pages (diffusing that light does nothing)
    producing the glare and the sun moves around. You need a fixed and
    predictible light source.

    The simplest thing is two (or more) inexpensive flood light reflectors
    with bulbs of sufficient wattage for your exposure. They should be
    mounted at each side of your copy stand at about 45 degrees to the
    subject and at a distance sufficient to provide even illumination over
    the complete subject. Many copy stands include pivotable, extendable
    brackets at each side for mounting lights.


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    Rooty Guest

    A polarize lens is very cheap I bought one when I was first told about
    it
    In fact you remind me that I only got it to fit on one lens
    which I used regularly at the time
    I have not used my camera for a long time
    I sold my last lens which was sounds like yours
    close up to larger expansion My friend bought it from me as I couldn't
    use it at the time as I had Guillain Barre which restricted my
    movements
    Then I bought a pod so I could do self portraits in my own flat in 2003
    on my CanonT90
    A present from a good friend which she had hardly used
    I was given it when I was doing a photography course
    I didn't start using it til the end of the course
    A lot of reading and trying to do
    I passed my documentary photography course which I enjoyed a lot
    She used to show us slides before beginning each session to talk about
    photos taken by the greats etc...
    I was really brought into the idea of seeing and shooting rather than
    planning each shot
    Which is why I liked Henri Cartier Bresson's pics taken on the move
    which he always was
    In 2004 I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis
    Now I do have to plan taking shots
    The CanonT90 is too heavy for me to carry
    All this talk of digital
    I don't no
    A guy taking my 4snaps in shop 2 weeks ago
    Said digital was an advantage cos you can shoot and see immediately
    which is wot a lot of the photographic artists would jump at the chance
    of doing now<says I>
    MP3 players are a must says tv in the background
    My boyfriend loves radio,cd's, videoand dvd's and more if you asked him
    This may or may not help
    I am cc ing it for me to look at again when I go to his house today
    Take Care
    There are lots of sales on in London and on Ebay.co.uk
    Hope you find enough dosh or the right price for what you eventually
    decide on
    If anything
    Just because everyone else seems to change
    Some times with you it might just be a change of where and how you take
    the pic
    If not using a flash
    First thing in the morning before the sun is really bright might be
    worth a try
    Best of it
    Rooty
     
    Rooty, Mar 11, 2006
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    Colin D Guest

    Check around the second-hand market for an old enlarger - the baseboard
    and column makes an excellent copy stand. Modification of the arm that
    holds the enlarger head to take a camera shouldn't be too much of a
    problem. I use exactly this setup, with two or four lamps (depending on
    the size of the copy) at 45 deg. to the copy and about a metre away. If
    the article is shiny, like some magazine pages, the lighting angle is
    important, as is ensuring there is no top lighting. Outdoors is not
    good, as skylight from overhead will cause reflections, and direct sun
    is too directional, causing surface texture to become visible.

    Colin D.
     
    Colin D, Mar 11, 2006
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