Seeking Lens recommendations for Nikon D3 from newbie

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Steve B., Jun 7, 2008.

  1. Steve B.

    Steve B. Guest

    Hi all,

    I just upgraded my D70 to a D3 and still am very green regarding
    digital photography. I was hoping that you all could shoot me some
    opinions regarding a lens choice.

    My old D3 had a 18mm-70mm DX lens which I still have as well as a
    70mm-300mm VR (non-DX) lens. Obviously the 18mm-70mm will not allow me
    to take full advantage of the D3's resolution so I would like to find
    another lens that will with approximately the same range as 18mm-70mm.
    I was looking at the AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED (2.9x), but I was
    also wondering if anyone has any other suggestions.

    Dumb question here, but does the lens even have to be a Nikon or can I
    purchase another manufacture lens without sacrificing anything that
    the D3 offers?

    All guidance will be greatly appreciated and thanks for tolerating my
    lack of knowledge.
    Thanks in Advance!!!
    Regards,

    Steve B.
     
    Steve B., Jun 7, 2008
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  2. Steve B.

    Frank Arthur Guest

    Are you for real? You've just upgraded your D70 to a more than $5,000
    D3 before you considered the key element- the lens?
    Nice choice AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED that should add about $1900
    to your budget. If you've got the bucks why would you buy a lesser
    lens that the Nikkor especially using a D3?
    What are you doing with your photographs that require the ultimate?
    Have you already reached the acme of photo success with the old D70?
     
    Frank Arthur, Jun 7, 2008
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  3. Steve B.

    ASAAR Guest

    Your old D3 or your old D70?

    The 24-70 lens won't give you the same range with the D3. It'll
    be roughly equivalent to using a 16-47mm DX lens on the D70. To
    have the same zoom range on the D3 as you get with the 18-70mm lens
    on the D70, you'd need to mount a 27-105mm FX lens on the D3. I
    realize that the 24-70mm's upper focal length is adequate, since
    your 70-300mm lens picks up where the shorter lens's fl ends, but
    sometimes having a substantial focal length overlap can be useful.

    There's no need to use only Nikon lenses and many 'pros' don't.
    Nikon's 'premium' prices for 'pro' glass such as the 24-70mm f/2.8
    lens pretty much assures you of getting excellent build quality and
    can often get you very high quality images, but not always. For
    instance, their 70-200mm f/2.8 FX lens has an excellent reputation
    for sharpness, but as photographers have been recently discovering,
    it's that good only when used on one of Nikon's DX bodies. On the
    Full Frame D3, it's image quality appears to be only mediocre in the
    corners.

    Unless you have money to burn, it may be better to wait a while to
    buy some of Nikon's better, more expensive lenses, as many think
    that Nikon will soon be coming out with newer versions that will be
    better able to exploit the D3's advantages. In the meantime, most
    non-Nikon brand FX lenses will be much less expensive, but will
    produce much better quality images than you'll get using even very
    good Nikon DX lenses using the D3's "crop" mode. Or you could buy
    one of Nikon's less expensive (smaller max. aperture, variable
    aperture) FX lenses, such as the Nikkor 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF
    AF-S VR Autofocus Lens. Not quite as sharp as the 24-70mm f/2.8
    lens, but its advantages are that it's almost 1/2 the weight,
    includes the zoom range that you're looking for, is less than 1/3
    the price ($500 vs. $1700), and unlike the 24-70mm lens, is
    generally available! And of course it wouldn't have to be used in
    the D3's 'crop' mode. :)
     
    ASAAR, Jun 7, 2008
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  4. Steve B.

    Steve B. Guest

    Hey Frank I have disposable income and I only buy the best. Eat your
    heart out you DickHead!
     
    Steve B., Jun 8, 2008
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  5. Steve B.

    Steve B. Guest

    Thanks for the great information Asaar! What are your thoughts
    regarding using another mfg lense such as a Sigma?
     
    Steve B., Jun 8, 2008
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  6. Steve B.

    ASAAR Guest

    As with most brands, some should be avoided while others are very
    good. I got my first non-Nikkor DSLR lens about a year ago, Sigma's
    30mm f/1.4, and it has performed very well. Based on many comments
    about its high quality (including, IIRC Thom Hogan), I'll probably
    be using a Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 lens in the near future, despite
    already having a pair of Nikkor zooms with similar focal length
    ranges. For my first super-wide, while Sigma's 10-20mm lens also
    has a very good reputation, I think I'll wait until Tokina's 11-16mm
    f/2.8 lens finally starts shipping. Fortunately, my choices are
    more easily made, since unlike you, I won't be using any cameras
    having full frame (FX) sensors.
     
    ASAAR, Jun 8, 2008
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  7. Steve B.

    JT's Ghost Guest

    This article might give you a few ideas for lenses...

    http://www.bythom.com/rationallenses.htm


    - JT
    also has a Sigma 10-20mm, and is looking to buy a Sigma 30mm F1.4
     
    JT's Ghost, Jun 8, 2008
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  8. Steve B.

    Steve B. Guest

    Thanks very much JT!!!

     
    Steve B., Jun 8, 2008
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  9. Steve B.

    Frank Arthur Guest

    Well "newbie with a Nikon D3 body" you answered your own question.
    Since you have disposable income "and only buy the best" get the AF-S
    NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED at about $1900. Then add a 200-400mm VR
    Nikkor. Why are you looking for cheaper second quality lenses?
     
    Frank Arthur, Jun 8, 2008
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  10. Steve B.

    Steve B. Guest

    Frank you truly are a piece of work....If you would have read my
    original posting carefully, prior to letting your jealousy get the
    best of you, you would have noticed that nowhere in my original
    question does it state that I am looking for a "cheaper second quality
    lens." I was merely looking to the group for suggestions regarding
    lenses based upon the expertise of the people who post in this group.
    Of course shame on me, I should have known better, because every
    newgroup that I have ever subscribed to contains people like you who
    attempt to make lesser experienced people in that group embarrased to
    ask questions or try to make them feel bad afterwards. Perhaps it's
    simply a matter of bitterness and insecurity that people like you have
    to cope with and the the illusion of happiness lies with your need to
    drag others down. But who am I to judge, keep chasing the dream Frank!
     
    Steve B., Jun 8, 2008
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    Rita Berkowitz, Jun 9, 2008
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  12. That one is the obvious choice for a standard zoom for the D3.
    For wide angle, you could then get the Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8.
    The F-mount lenses from Tamron, Tokina and Sigma work fine on a Nikon
    D3. These manufacturers offers some cheaper replacement to popular
    Nikon lenses, and they also offer some lenses that Nikon does not
    offer.

    For instance, if you want a 200-500mm f/2.8 for your D3
    http://www.bornrich.org/entry/at-25k-sigzilla-telephoto-zoom-lens-is-one-sexy-beast/
    you must buy Sigma.
     
    Gisle Hannemyr, Jun 9, 2008
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  13. Steve B.

    mt Guest

    If you're green regarding digital photography why buy the D3?
     
    mt, Jun 11, 2008
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  14. Steve B.

    OldBoy Guest


    Maybe because he's green? :) :)
    Seriously, the D3 deserves the best Nikon lens there is..
     
    OldBoy, Jun 11, 2008
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