selective color cast

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by peternew, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. peternew

    peternew Guest

    peternew, Jun 26, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    One thing to remember, reflections are not a color cast, as evidenced
    in this shot where there is a green reflection from a wet lawn.
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    Now one can certainly work to remove or adjust that unwanted color in
    the reflection, but it is not a color cast.
    I fixed that using a "Hue/Saturation" adjustment layer and layer mask.
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    Savageduck, Jun 26, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    Actually the hood is copper not brass. So the color is pretty much
    correct with the exception of a slight reflection from the fender. The
    radiator, hood hinges, headlights, horn, and brake levers are brass.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 26, 2013
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  4. peternew

    peternew Guest

    Thanks, I wasn't sure whether to play with it, or not.
    I have to admit that i don't even know the make and year of the car. To
    me it's just a beautiful car.
     
    peternew, Jun 26, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    That looks to be a 1908-1910 Ford Model T Touring car. That particular
    car was one of the "brass era" touring cars which did not have doors.
    Three doors were added to the Touring car in 1911, and the driver only
    got a door in 1915.

    The brass as shown is all good and authentic. However, the copper hood
    and brass hood hinges are probably custom option, or a non-authentic
    restoration option.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 26, 2013
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  6. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    On further examination the hood seemed longer than you would find on a
    1908-1910 Model T.
    I did a little more checking and now I would have to ID it as a 1904
    Mercedes-Benz Simplex Touring car.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 26, 2013
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  7. peternew

    peternew Guest

    thanks.
    I was talking with the owner of an old Ford, that had no windshield. He
    said he electrified the original acetylene lamps for safety reasons.
    He was telling me that he paid under $18,000 for the car. It would be
    fun to have one, but............
     
    peternew, Jun 26, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    BTW: Both cars have a similar profile, but the Ford is a lefthand
    drive, while the Mercedes is a righthand drive as shown in your shot.
    The Mercedes also got doors later.
    The brass era for European cars was over by 1916 and in the USA by 1921.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 26, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Sometimes you should accept what it there, not what you would like to
    be there. When Peter saw that car in the park, I'm sure the same
    reflections were on the car's hood. The camera captured what is
    there.
     
    Tony Cooper, Jun 26, 2013
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    peternew Guest

    Yeah! you're right, but you know by now I am somewhat of a believer in
    Goethe.
     
    peternew, Jun 26, 2013
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    isw Guest

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    Sandman Guest

    That looks to be a 1908-1910 Ford Model T Touring car.[/QUOTE]

    It does look similar, yes, but the hood is way too long and curved
    rather than blocky. Plus the front fender is arched in the wrong angle
    for that model year.
     
    Sandman, Jun 26, 2013
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  14. peternew

    Sandman Guest

    On further examination the hood seemed longer than you would find on a
    1908-1910 Model T.
    I did a little more checking and now I would have to ID it as a 1904
    Mercedes-Benz Simplex Touring car.[/QUOTE]

    I doubt it, the simplex had free floating fenders that followed the
    wheels more closely, and the front fenders went straight down behind the
    wheel.

    Plus, the Simplex roof was for the rear passangers only, not a complete
    soft top.

    The Model T is the best match, still, but some discrepancies are there.
     
    Sandman, Jun 26, 2013
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  15. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    I doubt it, the simplex had free floating fenders that followed the
    wheels more closely, and the front fenders went straight down behind the
    wheel.

    Plus, the Simplex roof was for the rear passangers only, not a complete
    soft top.

    The Model T is the best match, still, but some discrepancies are there.[/QUOTE]

    I also like the Model T, but there are somethings that are just wrong,
    especially the length of the hood.
    In Peter's capture the spare is in the correct position for the
    Mercedes, as are the two control levers on the right.

    I checked some English brass cars because of the righthand drive and
    couldn't find a match. As far as French brass goes, there just wasn't
    enough brass (those guys used tons of brass between 1904 and 1915).
    Pre-WWI Hispano-Suiza all had doors.

    Then I looked at pre-WWI Oldsmobiles some of which were close matches.
    Buicks of the same era I discounted as they all had doors.
    I had thought Hupmobile, but all those of that period had rear doors
    and the spare was positioned further back.

    So I am still left with Model T or Mercedes, with an outside choice of
    Oldsmobile.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 26, 2013
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  16. peternew

    Noons Guest

    You heathen! What next? Realistic photos?
    Next you're gonna suggest he uses GIMP instead of Photoshop?
    Communist!
     
    Noons, Jun 26, 2013
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    meow2222 Guest

    The main problem is the amount of ongoing maintenance required, and the cost of it. Cars of that era were highly unreliable. Then there's the sad reality that they're death traps.


    NT
     
    meow2222, Jun 27, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    Thanks,
    To me, the whitewall tires have a greenish cast, that could be a
    reflection of thr grass.

    OTOH removal of magenta could also have attenuated the greenish cast.
    If the NEF file is wanted to play, let me know.
     
    PeterN, Jun 28, 2013
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