selective color cast

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by peternew, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    You know better than to make an offer such as that. ;-)

    Send the NEF, the 'Duck would like to play.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 28, 2013
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  2. peternew

    PeterN Guest

    It may not be the same as I posted but close emough
    <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/_DSC4753_4143.NEF>

    If I had storage space, and lieved in San Diego, I would have bought
    this, for about $16,000.
     
    PeterN, Jun 28, 2013
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  3. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Jun 28, 2013
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  4. peternew

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Why have you left the lawn chair and cooler at the right? If you are
    going to doctor it up, go all the way.

    I'm also slightly put off by the spare tires. They seem far too black
    to me. The black parts of the on-wheel tires are not that black. I
    don't remember if they were that black in the first-presented .jpg
    image.

    I've reserved comment on this image because it's a mixed bag for me.
    It's a very sharp, well-exposed photograph of a beautiful vehicle in a
    great setting. It's the kind of photograph you see on a calendar or a
    glossy car magazine. (Hence the need to remove the lawn chair and
    cooler)

    At the same time it's static. I would say that it doesn't have
    character, but it's hard to say a car of that vintage is without
    character. It seems to have the most interest in this group for the
    perceived flaws: the hood color and the greenish cast to the tires.
    (Both flaws have been improved since the original appearance)
     
    Tony Cooper, Jun 28, 2013
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  5. peternew

    Graham Guest

    The driver looks incongruous. Perhaps clone him out and replace with
    one in period dress? That would certainly add character.
     
    Graham, Jun 28, 2013
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  6. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    OK! OK! My mind was on adjustment not crop or object removal, but just
    for you, here is a version with the picnic stuff removed , and one
    where it is excluded via crop.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DSC4753_4143CEw.jpg >
    The spare tires and the tires on the wheels are completely different.
    White walls on the wheels, not so as spares. I am not disturbed by the
    black tires, they seem to be rendered just fine to me. However if you
    have further issue with them I would bring that up with the guy behind
    the wheel.
    If you took a look at the NEF you might modify that "well-exposed"
    comment. The car & driver detail in the shadows is kind of buried in
    the unadjusted original. I suspect that to be the reason for artifacts
    on the driver's face in Peter's initial post.
    If you haven't opened the NEF, here is what you would have had to work with.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/_DSC4753_4143O1w.jpg >

    I guess I went about lifting the detail out of the shadows somewhat
    differently to the way Peter did.
    Done. See above.
    Yup! It is static, no blurred wheels/spokes. I guess it wasn't speeding
    along that road.
    I fixed the greenish cast on the tires, the trick there was to minimize
    the green without making the sidewalls bright white. As far as the hood
    goes, it is copper, highly reflective and showing some of the color of
    the fender.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 28, 2013
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  7. peternew

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Yeah, and that's what I'm noticing. Note the color of the black part
    of the whitewall tires compared to the color of the spares.
    I don't worry about that. If it can be repaired in post, that's what
    we see.
     
    Tony Cooper, Jun 28, 2013
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  8. peternew

    PeterN Guest

    Yes it's just a snapshot. It is primarily interesting to old car lovers,
    and those who like to do Photoshop exercises. If I had shot at a slow
    enough speed the spokes would have blurred, giving an illusion of motion.

    However, I can take a small portion of the car and get something like this:
    <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/horn.jpg>
     
    PeterN, Jun 28, 2013
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  9. peternew

    Tony Cooper Guest

    It's much better than that, but I use "snapshot" as a somewhat
    derogatory term.
    It would look good on the wall if you like vintage cars.
     
    Tony Cooper, Jun 28, 2013
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  10. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    Different tires that's all, not worth getting hung up about. He
    probably used tite dressing on thm, whereas the white walls are in use.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 28, 2013
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  11. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    Yup! You would do that. ;-)
     
    Savageduck, Jun 28, 2013
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  12. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    I did some searching through some of my shots, because there was
    something familiar about the car.

    I have shots of a 1911 Mercedes Simplex Touring Car taken at the 2009
    Avila Beach Concours, and I believe found the match to its bloodline.
    While this one has doors, it has the same full cab roof as shown in
    Peter's shot. The placement of the spare tires is identical, and
    importantly the brass lamps are a match. The wheel hubs are not
    distinct, but are similar enough to be called a match.
    I believe Peter's car is an earlier model in the 1904-1908 range, and
    more than likely a Mercedes.

    Here is the 1911 Mercedes:
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DSC_2830Ew.jpg >
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DSC_2824Ew.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Jun 29, 2013
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  13. peternew

    PeterN Guest

    PeterN, Jun 29, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Jun 29, 2013
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  15. peternew

    PeterN Guest

    I guess it's better to have a Mercedes, when you think you have a Ford,
    than the other way around. ;-)
    Lesson, try to find out before the shot, if I really want to know.
     
    PeterN, Jun 29, 2013
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  16. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    When I go to a Concours or any other car show I try to get a shot of
    the entry card so I can get a reference. If I can't get that, I have my
    trusty pen & pad. That lets me confirm ID and get some history.
    In this case I got the ID on a 1960 Ferrari 250 GT SWB, of which only
    176 were built the three years of production, 1959, 1960, & 1961. Of
    those only 36 were road cars the rest were dedicated racing machines.
    This particular example ended up in this owner's hands for $5.6M,
    making it the most valuable car I have ever had the privilege of
    shooting.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5803w.jpg >
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC5798-Efw.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Jun 29, 2013
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  17. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    He got a bargain. I see that a nice red 1960 Ferrari 250 GT SWB sold at
    RM Auction in January for $8,140,000.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 29, 2013
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  18. peternew

    PeterN Guest

    Pencil?
     
    PeterN, Jun 29, 2013
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  19. peternew

    PeterN Guest

    Now How many D800s can I get for that? (without lenses, of course)
     
    PeterN, Jun 29, 2013
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    A 250 GT spyder went for $10.9 million in May 2008
    http://www.worldcarfans.com/1080519...-250-gt-swb-california-spyder-for-109-million
    Radio DJ Chris Evans Buys 1961 Ferrari 250 GT SWB California Spyder for $10.9 Million

    The 250 GTO is nicer, and they go for three times that:
    http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/ferrari-250-GTO-sells-for-35-million-dollars-2012-06-06
    Ferrari 250 GTO sells for $35M

    Better looking in red though:
    http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/05/04/23/06/1962_ferrari_250_gto-pic-49027.jpeg
     
    pensive hamster, Jun 29, 2013
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