serious price drop on Nik software

Discussion in 'Photography' started by peternew, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. peternew

    peternew Guest

    peternew, Jun 15, 2013
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  2. peternew

    Robert Coe Guest

    : In article <>, Robert Coe
    :
    : > : i mhave been sleeping, but I recently learned that Google is selling
    : > : the entire Nk suite for $149. this represents a drastic price drop.
    : > :
    : > : <http://www.niksoftware.com/nikcollection/usa/intro.html>
    : >
    : > So Adobe's ploy to wring more money out of its customer base brings on
    : > stiffer competition from Google? I guess we'll see who gets the last
    : > laugh.
    :
    : nope.
    :
    : not only are they two different products, but google cut the price well
    : before adobe announced the creative cloud. two entirely separate
    : events.

    Your relationship to Adobe: paid stooge or toadying fanboi? If it were the
    former, I can't believe they'd let you be so obvious about it. So I guess it
    must be the latter.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jun 15, 2013
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  3. peternew

    Guest Guest

    which would have been before google bought nik last fall.

    the price was dropped this past march, two months before adobe
    announced *only* creative cloud, which is what bob was referring to.
    that's when his hatred for all things adobe skyrocketed.
     
    Guest, Jun 15, 2013
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  4. peternew

    Guest Guest

    resorting to insults?

    two can play. you're an adobe hater, so much that you twist everything
    into anti-adobe, even when it has nothing to do with adobe. that's how
    deep your hatred runs. this is entirely what *google* did.

    you are obviously unaware that nik software works with apple software
    and can also run standalone. no adobe software required at all.
    you're wrong, again. it's neither.

    google bought nik last fall and reduced its price last march.

    if anything, that would cause people to want to use adobe or apple
    software *more* than they would otherwise. that's an odd way to
    compete, by driving up usage of the other company's product. it's
    ludicrous.

    the price cut also happened two months *before* adobe announced the
    subscription only plan and the purchase well before that, so what
    google did obviously had nothing to do with anything adobe did.
     
    Guest, Jun 15, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    Note the date on that story, 12/10/2012. So, Fall of 2012 not 2011,
    another of Peter's typos. It is also worth noting Peter's "?" which I
    believe brings up the introduction of Adobe's rental model which was an
    option to license purchase back then.
     
    Savageduck, Jun 15, 2013
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  6. peternew

    Guest Guest

    Note the date on that story, 12/10/2012. So, Fall of 2012 not 2011,
    another of Peter's typos.[/QUOTE]

    good catch. missed that.

    i was thinking he was referring to adobe having offered creative cloud
    for the past year alongside the traditional purchase plan.
    right, they offered both subscription and purchase. now they only offer
    subscription which has sent the haters into a tizzy.
     
    Guest, Jun 15, 2013
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  7. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    The subscription/rental model for CS Suite had been in place for some
    18 months before the March announcement that it would be the only CS
    delivery system. This is what has disturbed many non-pros and license
    buyers, losing the option.
    Few non-Photoshop users were going to buy CS6 or subscribe to the CC,
    although the single subscription costs would actually make Photoshop
    economically accessible to many who would have derided Photoshop and
    Adobe on cost alone, while ignorant of the capabilities of the software.

     
    Savageduck, Jun 15, 2013
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    How do the NIK products compare with the Topaz products?
    http://www.topazlabs.com/

    To a certain extent their functionalities seem to
    overlap.
     
    Alfred Molon, Jun 15, 2013
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  9. peternew

    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Jun 15, 2013
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  10. peternew

    Robert Coe Guest

    : In article <>, Robert Coe
    :
    : > : > : i mhave been sleeping, but I recently learned that Google is selling
    : > : > : the entire Nk suite for $149. this represents a drastic price drop.
    : > : > :
    : > : > : <http://www.niksoftware.com/nikcollection/usa/intro.html>
    : > : >
    : > : > So Adobe's ploy to wring more money out of its customer base brings on
    : > : > stiffer competition from Google? I guess we'll see who gets the last
    : > : > laugh.
    : > :
    : > : nope.
    : > :
    : > : not only are they two different products, but google cut the price well
    : > : before adobe announced the creative cloud. two entirely separate
    : > : events.
    : >
    : > Your relationship to Adobe: paid stooge or toadying fanboi?
    :
    : resorting to insults?
    :
    : two can play. you're an adobe hater, so much that you twist everything
    : into anti-adobe, even when it has nothing to do with adobe. that's how
    : deep your hatred runs. this is entirely what *google* did.

    I'm surprised to learn that I'm an Adobe hater. I've never used any of their
    photo editing products, so I have no particular opinion of them. I've always
    assumed that the time might come when I'd need Photoshop, but it never has.
    Their new pricing policy probably makes it less likely that I'll ever get it,
    but I'll cross that bridge if and when I come to it.

    : you are obviously unaware that nik software works with apple software
    : and can also run standalone. no adobe software required at all.

    Where did I mention Nik software? I was talking about you acting like an Adobe
    fanboi. To the best of my recollection, I never heard of Nik software until
    this thread. When someone first brought it up, I thought he was talking about
    Nikon's proprietary photo editor.

    : > If it were the
    : > former, I can't believe they'd let you be so obvious about it. So I guess it
    : > must be the latter.
    :
    : you're wrong, again. it's neither.
    :
    : google bought nik last fall and reduced its price last march.
    :
    : if anything, that would cause people to want to use adobe or apple
    : software *more* than they would otherwise. that's an odd way to
    : compete, by driving up usage of the other company's product. it's
    : ludicrous.

    Now you're talking as though *you've* forgotten that Nik can run standalone.

    : the price cut also happened two months *before* adobe announced the
    : subscription only plan and the purchase well before that, so what
    : google did obviously had nothing to do with anything adobe did.

    Aren't you one of those who told us that EVERYBODY knew a year ago that Adobe
    was planning this pricing change? Now you're saying that Google didn't know?
    How likely is that?

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jun 16, 2013
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  11. peternew

    Guest Guest

    in your initial post:
    yet you somehow thought that it's competition for photoshop, without
    knowing anything about it?? um, ok.
    your reading comprehension is about as good as tony and peter.

    scroll up and you'll see that i explicitly mentioned standalone (copied
    below because you missed it the first time). i did not forget at all.
    the bizarre part is you think nik is somehow competition to photoshop.
    extremely likely.

    nobody outside of adobe had any idea that adobe was going to switch to
    subscription-only prior to the announcement last month. that includes
    google.

    everyone assumed there would be a cs7 in addition to creative cloud.
     
    Guest, Jun 16, 2013
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  12. peternew

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Primarily, because I didn't think of doing it that way. I just did
    it the way that came to mind first.

    Without trying your suggestion, I don't think I'd want to. The way I
    did it leaves the NIK layer unmolested. If I think later that I'd
    like to do the NIK layer differently, I can re-do a NIK treatment and
    still use my masked layer. I can do several NIK treatments and view
    each through the layer mask by turning layers off and on.

    Your way may be better. Every time I think I know something about PS
    I read about some new or better way to do what I've been doing. There
    doesn't seem to be a "right" way to do anything; there are several
    "right" ways.

    I was just reading an article earlier today about using "blend if",
    but haven't put it into practice. I'm weak in using this tool.

    Photoshop is a constant learning experience for me.
     
    Tony Cooper, Jun 16, 2013
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  13. peternew

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I really can't remember which site I found it on, but there are
    several sites out there with discount codes. Here's just one where
    you can get the full package for $126.75.

    http://www.bongobytes.com/photograp...k-software-with-a-discount-coupon-code-32.htm

    Note that you order directly from NIK but add this code to your order.
    This place may get a kickback from NIK, but that's OK with me. As
    long as I'm ordering from a known source, I'm cool with it.

    Here's another:

    http://www.retailmenot.com/view/niksoftware.com

    Again, the actual order is placed at the NIK website and the code is
    added to that order.
     
    Tony Cooper, Jun 16, 2013
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  14. peternew

    Tony Cooper Guest

    That's an interesting version, but I wanted this to clearly be a shot
    of a boxcar door. I like the texture in the door. This is not a good
    example of graffiti. I've seen much better art on other boxcars. I'll
    be watching for some.
     
    Tony Cooper, Jun 16, 2013
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  15. peternew

    peternew Guest

    Tell me what context was your statement: "You are amazing. not only are
    they two different products, but google cut the price well before adobe
    announced the creative cloud. two entirely separate eventsAdobe anounced
    the Creative cloud in th Fall of 2011."
     
    peternew, Jun 16, 2013
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  16. peternew

    peternew Guest

    Was not a typo. the meeting referred to in the story took place in
    September 2011.
     
    peternew, Jun 16, 2013
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    peternew Guest

    In which case outside of Adobe was blind to the possibility. And their
    CEOs and marketing analysts were all fired for stupidity.
     
    peternew, Jun 16, 2013
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    peternew Guest

    good catch. missed that.
    [/QUOTE]
    You obviously didn't read the article either.
     
    peternew, Jun 16, 2013
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  19. peternew

    Guest Guest

    who was fired?
     
    Guest, Jun 16, 2013
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  20. peternew

    Guest Guest

    i didn't say everything in your quote.

    however, the point is that google bought nik and cut the price before
    adobe announced it would be subscription only. it was not a competitive
    move in any way.
     
    Guest, Jun 16, 2013
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