Several photos with grain/noise

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Dallas, May 23, 2012.

  1. Dallas

    Dallas Guest

    I had to shoot some pretty important shots on the max ISO for my camera
    and quite a few came out with nasty grain & noise:

    http://tinyurl.com/d5vmlm4

    I'm using Photoshop 6 to try to fix them, but Filter>Noise>Median just
    tends to melt the pixels into each other and turn sharp things a blob.

    This software looks pretty cool.. but $79 bucks is kind stiff for a
    utility.
    http://www.topazlabs.com/denoise/


    Someone suggested downloading the trial version of Adobe Lightroom and
    give it a try for
    30 days.

    Any ideas or opinions?
     
    Dallas, May 23, 2012
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  2. Dallas

    Alan Browne Guest

    If it's free to try, you'll be the best judge for your needs.

    With the image above (does she have a sister? !), at print size, the
    grain/noise will be far less.

    YMMV but the denoise (several) packages I've tried always removed detail
    where I wanted it preserved. In some cases areas of texture were
    rendered textureless.
     
    Alan Browne, May 23, 2012
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  3. Dallas

    Dallas Guest

    Ha, yes in fact... it was her sister's wedding I was shooting.
    (candids)
    I guess I'll find out, I'm downloading the trial DeNoise now. They say
    it's a Photoshop plug in, let's see if it plugs into PS6. :- )
     
    Dallas, May 23, 2012
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  4. Dallas

    Alan Browne Guest

    Let us know. Indeed a B4 and after of the prior shot would be interesting.
     
    Alan Browne, May 23, 2012
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  5. Dallas

    Dallas Guest

    What a rip off! The website say:
    "Enjoy a fully-functional 30-day trial of any of the Topaz programs for
    Mac or Windows."

    The installer says:
    "All functions are available except the ability to save the processed
    image."

    WELL THEN, IT'S NOT EXACTLY "FULLY-FUNCTIONAL" IS IT!

    It'll be a cold day in hell before I buy their products now, can I have
    my 40 minutes back?
     
    Dallas, May 23, 2012
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  6. I ran your image through Lightroom 4 and it cleared the noise with a trace
    loss of detail but nothing noticeable unless you were peeping. Topaz DeNoise
    5.01 seemed a bit plasticky to me by comparison but that may be because I'm
    no expert with the controls.
     
    Charles E. Hardwidge, May 23, 2012
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  7. Dallas

    Alan Browne Guest

    You could test it and take screen grabs to show us.
     
    Alan Browne, May 23, 2012
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  8. Dallas

    Savageduck Guest

    I ran your file through NIK Dfine 2.0 in CS5, selectively applying the
    noise reduction to the skin. Here is the result.
    < http://db.tt/8Jz2goOt >

    NIK has a 15 day trial and it is also part of their complete collection
    which they have on sale from time to time.
    < http://www.niksoftware.com/dfine/usa/entry.php >
     
    Savageduck, May 24, 2012
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  9. Dallas

    Savageduck Guest

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    otter Guest

    Here's my attempt with Lightroom:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/7260033926/in/photostream/lightbox/
     
    otter, May 24, 2012
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  11. Dallas

    otter Guest

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  12. Dallas

    Savageduck Guest

     
    Savageduck, May 24, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

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    otter Guest

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    Dallas Guest

    Whoa... much better. The very first one you posted got rid of the
    noise, but at the cost very soft focus. This one has a completely
    acceptable level of sharpness. Pretty impressive.
     
    Dallas, May 24, 2012
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  16. Dallas

    Savageduck Guest

    All of these noise reduction tools need a practiced and subtle hand.
    For what it is worth any of the adjustment &/or effects plugins &
    add-ons need to be used lightly. The first attempt is not always the
    best one. With my first attempt I just went at it for a quick fix with
    NIK DFine Pro 2, and the result was over done and a bit soft.

    For my second attempt I used a little more restraint and care. I also
    noted she had freckles on her arm and I didn't want to have those IDed
    as noise. So I made a double pass with DFine Pro, first running a light
    profile to the entire image. Then with a second pass I only used the
    selective "skin" adjustment. That is made via a brush. I used a
    reasonably soft brush and set the brush opacity to 55% and painted the
    NR effect over all skin areas. Then I zoomed in and touched up
    individual noisy areas which were still visible.
    The result is above.

    Since you have CS6 give the 15 day trial a try. You should be able to
    do much better with the original files, particularly if you shot RAW.
    Take a look at their videos to get a bit of guidance.
    < http://www.niksoftware.com/dfine/usa/entry.php >
     
    Savageduck, May 24, 2012
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  17. Dallas

    Dallas Guest

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    Alan Browne Guest

    A little too smooth - some ladies may love it. It didn't remove grain
    so much as smudge it out along with detail. Also, in that image at
    least left a 3D effect of some sort.

    It would be better (maybe) on the full sized original I suspect.
     
    Alan Browne, May 24, 2012
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  19. Dallas

    Alan Browne Guest

    Yep.
     
    Alan Browne, May 24, 2012
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  20. Dallas

    Alan Browne Guest

    Much better. For comparison, that's fine - just tab between the two
    (one over the other).
     
    Alan Browne, May 24, 2012
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