Shoot - in / Pin hole / my comments

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Alan Browne, Sep 13, 2003.

  1. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    Now that everyone is solidly distracted and concentrated on "motion",
    I'll slip in my comments on the "pin hole" round.

    First off. Ken: you scared the crap out of me with the title name. I
    thought you acually wanted "pin hole" photographs.

    Gordon Moat's B&W shot. Risky technique pays off in spades. The
    negative space balances the sweep of the elevated highway. Our eye is
    eventually drawn to the car sweeping past. The stop sign gives us
    reference and an anchor point. the streetlights in the back add
    dimension The sloppy hand holding technique turns to art...

    Steve Kramer. You lazy ... Great shot of an ordinary person somewhere
    in mysterious Thailand. Catchy colors in the dress of the woman against
    the neutral tones around... we'd love to know what she's up to...
    whose togs are those...

    Al D's cranes: Although I wish we were up closer, in the end there are
    the elements of one bird accross the stream, the other "hopping over"
    and the third wating to go. The stream cutting through the field
    seperates the image into the future of the birds on the left, and the
    past on the right ... one bird frozen in transition. Although
    technically not strong, there is a lot of 'story' here. I like it a
    lot. Human psyche might have wanted the motion to be left to right?

    Tony P's reflection. Accomplished shot. Tony made lemonade out of a
    possible lemon location. This shot has soft and hard engraved into it.
    The framing of the windows against the refelction of the tower is very
    powerful. The roof overhang giveing us relied that there is a real
    world on our side of the glass.

    Bandicoot's grapes (berries?). I like this, even if it is very stark,
    the colors of the berries and leaves against the dark background is very
    effective... The triad works due to the weaker (or is it shy?) sister
    on the right, there is unity despite the weakness of that member.

    Michael Hoffman's silos. I don't like this. It's well composed,
    exposed and framed. What would this have looked like early in the
    morning or evening...? I think that would have taken the drab subject
    and given it life and dimension.

    Bowser on the road of dead life. I said it before. Get out of the car
    you lazy bum. There were various things there that could have made an
    interesting photo...

    Martin Francis' bird shit shot. Nice bird shit, too bad about the
    pigeons. This shot would have been much better taken with the stonework
    lines on diagonals, possibly wide angle, up close with the building roof
    line dissapearing into a corner of the frame... I don't know, just know
    that this flat on shot doesn't do much for me.

    Rich Pos' derelict house. Great choice of lighting and POV .. the light
    from above coming throught the rood and the open window grabs the eye
    and tells the story in a heartbeat. The young tree on the left
    incongruous with the main subject. Dramatic-pathetic.

    Chris Barnard's litter. Too centred. Great opportunity for a wide
    angle shot with the field dominating the surface of the image and the
    newspaper dominating the eye in a corner of the shot. With that light,
    especially, part of the frame oculd have included light flare at the
    horizon obscuring a future for places uncared for and littered...

    Mike Marty's happy sun flowers. What a loveable goofy flower shot.
    Maybe some play with the background positioning would have been in
    order, hard to say... some fill light (reflector or flash) to get some
    detail out of the centres/bees, maybe? In any case: the most "feel
    good" shot of all of the entries...

    Lisa Horton. I don't like this, sorry, but I DO like the blurred
    "horizon" against the sky. A fill light/slow sync to bash up the sign
    and give detail to the tree bark might have made a weird and powerful
    statement shot...?!

    Annika's b'fly. This is a really nice b'fly and I suspect the full
    detail shot must be fabulous. the whites are borderline blownout...
    I don't think the foreground clutter on the right is too distracting and
    the BG is smooth except for the dominant blob above the b'fly's head...

    Ken Cashion. This shot is dead to me, maybe it's my screen. It is too
    flat, there is no direction to it. At a different time of day, maybe?

    Bob Hickey's detail shot. I love it for composition, but I don't think
    the detail on the metal bar is sufficient. The composition joins two
    items in a subtle and strong manner. I wish there was more detail on
    the metal parts... The detail in the white masonry is pretty good but
    seems incomplete...

    Simon Lee's shaddows. This shot is amazing. The clapboard (blinds)
    providing a stable canvas for shaddows still and moving. The light is
    delicious, detailed and blurred. A hint of a face... maybe an indian
    head with feathers... this "meaningless" shot somehow keeps the eye
    entertained. Love it.

    Matt Clara's trailer yard (or whatever). This is a very nice urban
    landscape. The fence is doing its job trying to keep us out. Matt has
    given us a glimpse of the inside, but still manages to keep us from
    knowing the detail of the trailers ... as the truck company wants too.
    Barbwires at the top, a warning that we don't want you in here... a lot
    of perspective lines blurred byond the fence...exposure great, esp. the
    deep black of the fence silhouette against the tones of the enclosed
    subject. Bezzeled frame is cheesy.

    Alan Browne, Sep 13, 2003
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  2. Hey Alan,

    I can see what you're thinking - yes that would've been a pretty cool shot,
    although I think then you wouldn't have been able to make out the wording on
    the newspaper... plus, this particular shot was on a grassy bank next to the
    road. If I'd have used a wider angle and attempted to get more of the
    background in, you'd have been looking at tarmac. Maybe the same shot from
    another angle might have been interesting, but I would have been looking
    away from the sun. Still, it gives me some more things to think about next
    time ;)

    Chris Barnard, Sep 14, 2003
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  3. Alan Browne

    Bandicoot Guest

    Thanks. They are wild plums in fact: traditionally planted in hedges around
    here, and still to be found in some of the older hedgerows (and in the hedge
    around my garden as well.) Small, but very sweet...

    Bandicoot, Sep 15, 2003
  4. Alan Browne

    Gordon Moat Guest

    I thought that too, at first, but I was glad I was wrong when I read the
    Damn . . . I could not get anyone to slam the technique yet. I am beginning
    to be impressed by some of the members of this group. ;-)

    Thanks for the positive comments.


    Gordon Moat
    Alliance Graphique Studio
    Gordon Moat, Sep 15, 2003
  5. Alan Browne

    Ken Cashion Guest

    And you guys think I had not considered that possibiltiy? Oh,
    come on guys, I am retired from NASA. I know how to write provocative
    proposals and experiment implementation plans... :eek:)
    Ken Cashion, Sep 15, 2003
  6. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    I said "soft and hard", not sweet.
    Alan Browne, Sep 16, 2003
  7. Alan Browne

    Lisa Horton Guest

    Here in the USA, there is a product called "hard lemonade". It is what
    you would expect it to be.

    Lisa Horton, Sep 16, 2003
  8. Alan Browne

    Doug Payne Guest

    It's the same here in Canada. I speak from personal experience.
    Doug Payne, Sep 16, 2003
  9. Presumably it goes around beating up on Coke ?
    Tony Parkinson, Sep 16, 2003
  10. Alan Browne

    Ken Cashion Guest

    Well, Gordon, I read like I write. Since I consider all my
    cameras to be disposable, so will need to be specific if you want
    those throw-away types to be used.

    Ken Cashion
    Ken Cashion, Sep 16, 2003
  11. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    ....appeals to the 19 yr old honky-tonk woman, I suspect...

    We have it too. Never seen anyone drinking it...
    Alan Browne, Sep 16, 2003
  12. Frozen?
    Martin Francis, Sep 16, 2003
  13. Alan Browne

    Gordon Moat Guest

    Yeah . . . I figured you worded it that way to poke some fun at this. I am half
    thinking that I may go to a disposable camera only subject matter . . . though
    I have not yet decided.


    Gordon Moat
    Alliance Graphique Studio
    Gordon Moat, Sep 16, 2003
  14. Alan Browne

    Annika1980 Guest

    From: Lisa Horton
    Is it blue, like the pills?
    Annika1980, Sep 16, 2003
  15. You clearly hang around the wrong park benches.
    Martin Francis, Sep 16, 2003
  16. Alan Browne

    T P Guest

    I think it's what we in the UK call an "alcopop".
    T P, Sep 17, 2003
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