SI Perfection critiques

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by z-one-b, Jan 19, 2004.

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    z-one-b Guest

    Well, I figured that since no one else has done so aleady, I'll try my hand
    at critiquing the photos.
    I noticed that there seems to be far less entries for this SI. Maybe the
    concept of «perfection» might have scared a few away? I know that I
    hesitated to post, I'm the type of person that's never really satisfied with
    anything, and I guess that many of the photogs here are the same way!!!

    Jeff Zawrotny
    I love this type of shot! It's pretty evident where the idea for
    «perfection» came from - good eye. Effective use of B&W. The only thing
    that bothers me is the top of the ladder on the upper right side that's cut
    off, but that's personal preference (I'm a head-room freak), did you shoot
    this shot vertically as well?

    Paolo Pizzi
    Ah, Michelangelo's David. It's a good idea, but the SI rulz seem to have
    been completely ignored. Did you take the pic of the statue?

    Alan Browne
    Cool! I love the detail in the leaf. How did you do this shot?

    Joseph Kewfi
    I had a similar idea, except that is was beer. Nice shot, I see that you
    use a star filter as well as a pro-mist? I'm not a huge fan of effect
    filters, but I think that their use is appropriate here. I would guess that
    this is your favorite drink? I also see that the bottle is this
    the only shot that came out in focus???

    Adam Barker
    Really neat shot. I wish I could convince my girlfriend to pose like
    this...nice colours, but the crooked line in the middle of the model's face
    is a bit distracting.

    Jim Kramer
    What is that? My guess for perfection here would be the symmetry? Good

    Al Denelsbeck
    Perfect timing! Probably the shot that best meets the mandate.

    I read your explanation for this shot, but I think that it would have better
    fit the mandate without the subjects - something like a close-up of some of
    the patterns. A nice family snapshot.

    Vic Mason
    The little girl has a look on her face as if to say "I'll tell you where you
    can point that camera". Cute little girl, she has huge eyes!!! Is she your
    daughter? That would certainly explain why she is "perfect"!!!

    John Rhone
    Not what I would describe as «perfect», but she certainly is sexy!

    Doug Payne
    Nice macro and colours. I'm not a flower buff, what type of flower is that?

    Bret Douglas
    Whoa. I think I might have seen that angel last night in a nightmare.
    Great shot, nice DOF. Now, please excuse me while I curl up in the fetal
    position and hide in the closet for a bit.

    ....and I'm back...

    John Riegle
    Kitties! Nicely framed. How did you get in so close?

    Eric Quesnel-Williams
    My shot. I had a hard time coming up for an idea for this mandate...The pic
    was taken on Saturday, the skies here were almost completely clear in these
    parts, except for little clouds like the ones seen in the middle of the
    frame. Some would consider a clear sky to be perfect. I took another
    picture without the cloud in the middle, but I thought that it added
    character to the product. I'm actually quite surprised that there weren't
    more submissions like this!!!

    Well, that's it!
    z-one-b, Jan 19, 2004
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    Doug Payne Guest

    Amaryllis, commonly grown indoors in winter (at least around here).
    Originally from S. America I think. Brightens the joint up when outdoors
    is pretty much monochrome around here at this time of year.
    Doug Payne, Jan 19, 2004
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    Guest Guest

    Archived from "z-one-b" <> on Mon, 19 Jan 2004
    18:14:24 GMT:

    Client's daughter. Used with permission. Thanks. vm

    Guest, Jan 19, 2004
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    Paolo Pizzi Guest

    I thought the only way to approach a theme like "perfection" was
    philosophical and that required some rule bending. Yes, I did take
    the picture, but I understand it's fairly irrelevant because you don't
    see much of it.
    Paolo Pizzi, Jan 19, 2004
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    Nice shot, I see that you use a star filter as well as a pro-mist?

    Yep, a bit of experimentation on my part , I don't use my effects filters a
    whole lot.
    The bottle was given to me- I've never tasted the drink itself, I simply
    liked the orange colour of it. I shot a roll of the bottle with different
    filters in play and various lighting angles and some long exposures with
    maglite for effect, all the shots where in focus some turned out better than
    others though, I might have picked a different shot to submit on a different
    day, but seeing as I can only submit one- that's the one I chose on the day.
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 19, 2004
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    jimkramer Guest

    Jim Kramer
    It is chain mail of the knight in shining armor variety, before they wore
    shining armor. The perfection is the fact that it is made of stainless
    steel. Seventeen years ago I seem to have had more time and less sense then
    I do now.

    This is a very small part of a standard European variety four on one chain
    mail vest. Oriental chain mail tends to be more interesting and a mix of

    Chain mail is a very touchy-feely thing, if you get the chance, stop by a
    museum and ask the curator if you can touch it.

    Jim Kramer
    jimkramer, Jan 19, 2004
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    jriegle Guest

    ...and I'm back...

    Yeah, me too..
    400mm and some cropping ; )
    jriegle, Jan 19, 2004
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    jriegle Guest

    Being something of an equipment geek, I immediately noticed the strong
    chromatic aberration in the corners of this image. What camera/lens did you
    jriegle, Jan 20, 2004
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    jimkramer Guest

    The shot was taken with a Sony F717 with a +4 diopter closeup lens with a
    1.7X teleconverter on it. A harsh halogen from about 11:30, a mostly white
    computer screen @ 9:00, a near full spectrum fluorescent over head fixture @
    1:00 and two flashes at 9:00 and 3:00. The chain mail was backed with a
    black felt. The camera was set to F8.0, 3 second exposure @ ISO 100. It
    went a little soft around the edges and the color is definitely off near the
    edges, but not in the pattern I would have expected from the closeup/TC set
    up. Comments/Questions?

    Jim Kramer
    jimkramer, Jan 20, 2004
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    Bandicoot Guest

    Indoor here too. Technically they are now classified as genus Hippeastrum,
    to distinguish them from the Amaryllis that is an Autumn flowering outdoor
    hardy bulb. I only mention that in case anyone wants to buy one, having
    seen Doug's excellent shot, and needs to know the botanical name - that
    said, many nurseries and probably all florists still call them Amaryllis...

    Anyway, very nice shot. Right amount of DoF and the right focus point - two
    things that I think make or break this sort of image. I sort of feel there
    may be a _tiny_ bit too much sharpening - but this isn't really something
    you can judge in a screen image like this.

    Beautiful lighting. Is this natural window light? If it is artificial
    light, it is very well done.

    I didn't submit this week, in part due to time, and in part due to the girl
    who immediately sprang to my mind as the image of perfection being too ill
    to pose (also too ill to come to the pictures with me - very sad.) Wondered
    about my cat, but you've all seen her before. Now, why on Earth didn't I
    think of a flower shot? - given that I do them for a living...

    Bandicoot, Jan 20, 2004
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    Doug Payne Guest

    Yeah, these things are anything but hardy. They're easy enough to grow
    in a pot, but they need close attention once they flower.
    Natural light (cloudy day, patio door). Thanks for your comments. I
    rarely use artifical light (mostly because it looks artificial when I
    do, due to lack of competence :)
    Doug Payne, Jan 21, 2004
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    Bandicoot Guest

    Have you seen some of the species ones? There are some that are quite
    dainty, quite unlike the very full-blown look we are familiar with, which
    make an interestng change. There are a few hybrids now that have this
    'dainty' look too - I think 'apple blossom' is one, if memory serves.
    I personally think natural light is hard to beat for flowers, and don't use
    artificial much either, unless I must, in which case big softboxes and
    bigger reflectors are my preference.

    Days when the quality of light through the windows is especially good send
    me hurrying to get as much work done with it as I can - days like today,
    however, have me wasting time on UseNet... ;-)

    Bandicoot, Jan 21, 2004
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    Doug Payne Guest

    Yep, I've seen lots of variations. One of my daughters is a
    horticulturist, and my wife is the Amaryllis afficionado. She grows a
    few every winter. I'm not a gardener; I just admire the results,
    although my personal tastes run more to wildflowers.
    Doug Payne, Jan 21, 2004
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