SI: Pointer to current rulz?

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Chemiker, May 8, 2012.

  1. Chemiker

    Chemiker Guest

    Aside from the deadlines and size limits, what other rules are in
    place? Cropping, brightness adjustment, where's the limit?

    Alex
     
    Chemiker, May 8, 2012
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  2. Chemiker

    Tim Conway Guest

    PS is ok within moderation. Here's the link to the rulz page:

    http://www.pbase.com/shootin/rulzpage
     
    Tim Conway, May 8, 2012
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  3. Chemiker

    Chemiker Guest

    Chemiker, May 8, 2012
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  4. Chemiker

    SI Committee Guest

    http://www.pbase.com/shootin/rulzpage

    In a nutshell cropping is allowed, as are adjustments to
    tone/brightness/contrast, USM, etc.

    HDR is acceptable whether in-camera or post-processed from several
    images. I'd just caution against over-doing-it.

    Extensive digital manipulation is not welcome and certainly is not the
    goal of the SI.

    PS: Posts referring to the SI should have SI in square brackets:

    [SI] Pointer to current rules.
     
    SI Committee, May 8, 2012
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  5. Chemiker

    tony cooper Guest

    Don't let anyone tell you there are rules other than the deadlines and
    size limits. Do anything you want to the image.
     
    tony cooper, May 8, 2012
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  6. Chemiker

    Savageduck Guest

    ....and you are not restricted to digital, shooting on film is OK. Just
    add details of camera & film used when submitting a scan of your
    non-digital shot.
     
    Savageduck, May 9, 2012
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  7. Chemiker

    PeterN Guest

    Please define "extensive digital manipulation."

    Is it converting from color to monochrome?
    Is it: major color correction; noise removal; blurring; or selective
    and/or overall sharpening?
    Is it: removing a skin blemish; a people blemish; an object blemish? How
    about composites, solarizations, and posterizations. (all of which I
    have done in the darkroom.)
    etc.

    Please don't go there. Allow artistic freedom.

    Once I am back in shooting form, I plan to submit any image that is
    compatible with the theme. Remember this is an art form, not a pure
    reporting format.
     
    PeterN, May 9, 2012
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  8. Chemiker

    gpsman Guest

    My definition would include HDR.
    I disagree. This seems to be intended a "shooting" [SI]
    "assignment". "Artistic" manipulation is... something else.
    I disagree. It is whatever the moderator says it is.

    Were it me, I'd spec a mandate and 5 minutes max. for "adjustments",
    and anyone who didn't want to participate would be welcome to not
    participate, and whatever images that were in my opinion over-
    manipulated would go straight in the bit bucket.

    I sure as hell would not open a discussion of opinions of what the
    mandates should be. I'm pretty sure moderating the [SI] in my manner
    would be enough work for free, for me.
     
    gpsman, May 9, 2012
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  9. Chemiker

    Chemiker Guest

    Are we getting into X-rated territory here?

    Just askin'

    Alex
     
    Chemiker, May 9, 2012
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  10. Chemiker

    Pablo Guest

    Chemiker escribió:
    My porn collection feels insulted.
     
    Pablo, May 9, 2012
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  11. Chemiker

    PeterN Guest

    Always your right.

    Is asking for clarification opening a discussion. I can do any of the
    items listed above in a darkroom. Just because I am using a digital
    format doesn't mean there should be more restrictions.
     
    PeterN, May 9, 2012
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  12. Chemiker

    Chemiker Guest

    By digital manpulation?
     
    Chemiker, May 9, 2012
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  13. Chemiker

    SI Committee Guest

    HDR was a film technique, albeit not common, so (if one refers to the
    founding SI discussions and "common darkroom technique") it is allowed.

    But as we said, if one submits an extreme v. of HDR in the SI it is not
    likely to be well received.
    Extremes in digital manipulation are indeed not the point of the SI
    which is about capture, not editing skills.
    The moderators have never thrown a photo out to our knowledge (other
    than one case where a moderator thought a particular photo to be too
    explicit sexually). There was at least one photo that was obviously
    manipulated beyond capture with the addition of a feature that was
    obviously fake. It was allowed in and roundly rejected in comments.
     
    SI Committee, May 9, 2012
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  14. Chemiker

    Alan Browne Guest

    ;-)

    Past moderators would not allow nudity. I would as long as it is not
    vulgar/obscene or otherwise offensive.
     
    Alan Browne, May 9, 2012
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  15. Ah, a disciple of Justice Potter who could not define obscenity but knew
    it when he saw it!
     
    James Silverton, May 9, 2012
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  16. Chemiker

    tony cooper Guest

    As soon as the SI starts offering cash prizes we'll welcome more
    specific rules. In the current format, it's photo sharing of images
    somewhat related to the mandate according to the interpretation of the
    shooter.

    Considering the turn-out in both submission of images and discussion
    of the images posted, the prime objective of the moderator should be
    keep it simple in order to keep it going. Turning away images should
    not be a consideration.

    About those cash prizes...sponsors are welcome. I think Alan will
    accept your PayPal contribution.
     
    tony cooper, May 9, 2012
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  17. Chemiker

    Alan Browne Guest

    Something along those lines.

    "One man's porn is another man's art."

    Not sure who quipped that first.
     
    Alan Browne, May 9, 2012
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  18. Chemiker

    Alan Browne Guest

    Especially with the pre award handling fees of 94%. But the rest,
    assuredly will go to the winnah and champeen!
     
    Alan Browne, May 9, 2012
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  19. Chemiker

    tony cooper Guest

    If it helps, mentally translate "mandate" into "the subject suggested
    for this round of the Shoot-In" and understand that there is no
    disqualification or penalty for submitting something off-subject.

    This is an informal showcase of photos submitted by some of the people
    who regularly read this, and the related, newsgroups. Very informal.
    There are no winners, no judges, no votes. Feel free, however, to
    tell anyone who doesn't read the group that your submission was the
    Grand Prize Winner.
     
    tony cooper, May 15, 2012
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