Sigma advantages over other camera manufacturers

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Giorgio Preddio, Jun 27, 2004.

  1. I put together this collection of info for those people interested in
    buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any
    other camera besides a Sigma SD10.

    1) Superior build like a tank

    2) Wealth of available lenses and accessories

    3) Image quality is superior to all other cameras due to the highly
    acclaimed Foveon sensor.

    4) True, realistic color images: The Sigma SD* series are the only
    digital cameras to record images in color instead of monochrome.

    5) The best RAW conversion software available

    6) Superior ergonomics

    7) The most advanced features of all digital SLR cameras

    8) Better effective resolution than any other digital SLR including
    the Canon 1Ds

    9) Best dynamic range of all digital SLR cameras

    10) Highly advanced autofocus system

    12) Metering/exposure is always *DEAD ON BALLS* accurate. Can't say
    the same for Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus or Kodak

    13) Far less complaints of image softness than Canon and Nikon digital
    SLR cameras

    14) Forward compatibility: The Sigma/Foveon platform is a cutting edge
    hot technology that will be around in 10 years. Canon and Nikon will
    be dinosaurs by then.

    15) No need to spend a fortune on expensive lenses with image
    stabilization or heavy tripods. Camera shake is prevented by an
    elaborate in-camera algorithms.
     
    Giorgio Preddio, Jun 27, 2004
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  2. not an issue, one need not be heavy to have good build quality
    more options with Canon or Nikon
    Road Apples
    Nice theory, but practical implementation has not paid off
    score 1
    Not really
    More Road apples
    No, a complete lie, please look up reolution and see what it really
    means
    Road Apples (the pile is gettiong quite high)
    But most reviews put the lie to that statement
    Road Apples, anyone who actually uses a camera with a TTL metering
    system knows there are always circumstances that will fool the
    metering system.
    You can't back that up because it's, yes, more road apples
    More road apples, the limiting issue is sensors, Canon and Nikon (and
    many point and shoots) are using higher resolution than Sigma is, if
    you need to get better, one has to replace the body with a Sigma, a
    Canon, a Nikon, an Olympus, etc.
    One is limited to Sigma lenses, which means that you haven't the
    ability to use some exceedingly excellent glass made by the two
    largest lens manufacturers in the world, Canon and Nikon.

    As well, no matter how good the algorithms are, they don't actually
    image stabilize, one actually needs motors to keep the focus on the
    CCD, the best application is to put the motors on the lens. Sigma
    bodies simply don't do that.

    My count, there is one valid argument in 15, and that is easily
    rectified by buying a better RAW program for a Canon or Nikon.

    Bottom line is that the Sigma bodies are still 2 generations behind
    Canon.

    GK
     
    grant kinsley, Jun 27, 2004
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  3. This is the most compelling reason, I think. You can't take a Canon
    DSLR pic in the mildly challenging conditions without severe blown
    highlites.
     
    Georgette Preddy, Jun 27, 2004
    #3
  4. Talking to yourself again, George?
     
    Brian C. Baird, Jun 27, 2004
    #4
  5. Giorgio Preddio

    Ron Guest

    Scary, isn't it. This dickhead(George, Giorgio, Georgette, Lionel, Orville,
    or alias du jour) must have invested a shitload in Sigma/Foveon stock. I
    have never seen a fanboi so intent on convincing himself that he backed the
    right pony. If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it MUST be a
    duck. Too bad for Preddiot, it turned out to be goose shit.

    Ron
     
    Ron, Jun 27, 2004
    #5
  6. (Giorgio Preddio) wrote in message
    Shut the **** up.
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Jun 28, 2004
    #6
  7. Giorgio Preddio

    Ted Azito Guest

    Scary, isn't it. This dickhead(George, Giorgio, Georgette, Lionel, Orville,

    Are you saying the Sigma camera isn't very good?
     
    Ted Azito, Jun 28, 2004
    #7
  8. Giorgio Preddio

    imbsysop Guest

    ... is normal, works with the delicacy and refinement of a tank too ..
     
    imbsysop, Jun 28, 2004
    #8
  9. Giorgio Preddio

    Edge Guest

    who are these people infecting our newsgroup?
     
    Edge, Jun 28, 2004
    #9
  10. I would guess you are coming from darkroom or aus. There is a problem in
    rec.photo.digital with a persistent troll either trying to ruin Sigma's
    reputation or the reverse - no-one can work out exactly which, since the
    posts are so preposterous and all-invasive (any question about any
    camera gets a moronic cut and paste reply about buying Sigma instead).

    Looks as if some crossposting has spread this mess elsewhere. I have not
    been checking headers - I'll stop replying to these crossposts.

    David
     
    David Kilpatrick, Jun 28, 2004
    #10
  11. Bullshit from Mr. Ed's ass. The built in camera-shake elimination
    gives you 4 or five extra stops to play around with, beyond that,
    additional stability is required (tripod, or optical stabilization).
     
    Giorgio Preddio, Jun 28, 2004
    #11
  12. My e-mail address is real and fully functional, unlike yours and many
    other folks' around here. Feel free to e-mail me if you have any
    questions.
     
    Giorgio Preddio, Jun 28, 2004
    #12
  13. I've never claimed to be any of those people.
     
    Giorgio Preddio, Jun 28, 2004
    #13

  14. How about that dust and grit on the CCD?
     
    Scott Hillard, Jun 28, 2004
    #14
  15. Giorgio Preddio

    imbsysop Guest

    IMHO I think you may not be GP indeed, 'cos yr language is much more
    agressive than the one he is used to and yr posts are even more
    idiotic than his .. yours are completely devoid of any form
    intelligence, even monocellular ..
     
    imbsysop, Jun 28, 2004
    #15
  16. Giorgio Preddio

    listener Guest

    I really doubt that a few idiots in a newsgroup can, in any way shape or
    form, have *any* effect on Sigma's reputation, for better or worse.

    I agree. Let's ignore it and stop crossposting.


    L.
     
    listener, Jun 28, 2004
    #16
  17. That's exactly what we're saying. And their lenses bite the big one
    too.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Jun 28, 2004
    #17
  18. Giorgio Preddio

    Marguerite Guest

    It seems to me that if everyone would stop playing word games with that
    Sigma person and not respond to anything that has the word 'Sigma' in it,
    the threads in here on that subject would fall to nothing and maybe the ng
    would be worth reading again!

    I am not going to cross-post this.....maybe others will be clever enough to
    come to these conclusions and make things interesting again! :))
    --
    mickey

    not an issue, one need not be heavy to have good build quality
    more options with Canon or Nikon
    Road Apples
    Nice theory, but practical implementation has not paid off
    score 1
    Not really
    More Road apples
    No, a complete lie, please look up reolution and see what it really
    means
    Road Apples (the pile is gettiong quite high)
    But most reviews put the lie to that statement
    Road Apples, anyone who actually uses a camera with a TTL metering
    system knows there are always circumstances that will fool the
    metering system.
    You can't back that up because it's, yes, more road apples
    More road apples, the limiting issue is sensors, Canon and Nikon (and
    many point and shoots) are using higher resolution than Sigma is, if
    you need to get better, one has to replace the body with a Sigma, a
    Canon, a Nikon, an Olympus, etc.
    One is limited to Sigma lenses, which means that you haven't the
    ability to use some exceedingly excellent glass made by the two
    largest lens manufacturers in the world, Canon and Nikon.

    As well, no matter how good the algorithms are, they don't actually
    image stabilize, one actually needs motors to keep the focus on the
    CCD, the best application is to put the motors on the lens. Sigma
    bodies simply don't do that.

    My count, there is one valid argument in 15, and that is easily
    rectified by buying a better RAW program for a Canon or Nikon.

    Bottom line is that the Sigma bodies are still 2 generations behind
    Canon.

    GK
     
    Marguerite, Jun 28, 2004
    #18
  19. Giorgio Preddio

    Nick C Guest

    I'm curious and have a little problem understanding your response.

    In #15, you said "Camera shake is _prevented_ by an elaborate in-camera
    algorithms" and say there is no need for lens stabilization or heavy
    tripods. (I emphasize the word prevented)

    Skip responded with "If it were true, there would be no reason to buy
    Sigma's own 80-400 Optical Stabilization lens for $1100 from B&H.

    Then you say that's "Bullshit" and post validation that Skip's implication
    is correct by saying ".... additional stability is required (tripod, or
    optical stabilization)." What am I missing, if anything?

    ??????????????

    nick
     
    Nick C, Jun 28, 2004
    #19
  20. Giorgio Preddio

    Big Bill Guest

    Why does Sigma seem to not know of this feature they supposedly build
    into their camera?

    Bill Funk
    Change "g" to "a"
     
    Big Bill, Jun 28, 2004
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