Sigma SD 10 Newbie Help UPDATE

What are you talking about? You asked, I answered
as best as I know. If you don't want answers, don't
ask.

If you choose to interprete everything you don't like
to hear as negative - nope - not right now.


/Roland

 

whinge - whinge - whinge all you seem to do is whinge

have you anything positive to say?

Arts

 

you really have trouble understanding simple english.

 

I don't see Preddy's posts except in follow-ups, but let me assure you that
I was NOT laughed off of dpreview.com's Sigma site. There are a few posters
there that are desperately angry over the existence of my web site, though
there are also several that provided very helpful advice, which I used in
the latest update of my site. Looks like George has found yet another alias
in Lex Mathews, someone who has never posted on Usenet prior to inquiring
about the SD10.

 

Well, you know ol' George...master of bullshit.

 

Hey, MORON: The reason I never posted was that I never had the camera
before - as I said in my update, I haven't had a new digital camera in many,
many years, and as a hobbyist photographer, have been wanting to try the new
X3 sensor out - hence the term "Newbie" in my subject line - can you put
that together?

All I was looking for was some helpful technical advice and balanced
suggestions. But along with that I got paranoid wackos like you who can't
stand not to be agreed with. Your ultra-paranoid reasoning goes like this:
"If they disagree with me, then they must be liars or fakes or secret paid
operatives." That is very, very sad for you. I can only imagine what your
personal relationships must be like - how many people have you driven away
with your paranoia and suspicions? Is there anyone who can stand to be
around you? This can't be the only forum in which you display your
personality disorder.

 

Chill out, fuckhead. Sigma's reputation is well known in these parts
and there's a frequent troll who persists in lying about their
products.

 

No, what I was stating, is that you never posted on any newsgroup, ever,
prior to your Sigma posts. This is classic Steve Gionovella. Furthermore,
most people post PRIOR to spending $1500-2000, so they can get opinions
about the various products out there that would fit their needs, rather than
coming here for help after making a mistake in their choice.

You should have asked for this advice before you spent your money. Now
you're throwing good money after bad trying to make the best of the
situation.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, as long as they can do it
calmly and logically. The fact that you can do neither speaks volumes.

Not at all. But when someone suddenly appears on Usenet, for the first time
ever in any newsgroup, suddenly asking advice about a purchase that they
already made, it's very classic Steve Gionovella. Either you're very naive,
spending all that money prior to seeking the advice of experts, or you're
yet another SG troll. If you had searched for information on the SD10, and
read the reviews, you would not have purchased this camera.

Very weak personal attacks. I can understand your defensiveness, but you
should put your efforts into correcting the situation rather than attacking
others.

 

I see that many posst seem to complain about the SIGMA colour reproduction
and then there is a web site that says silcon colour seperation is not very
good, compared to a matrix affair.

Well, silicon has a property that different wavelengths of light penetrate
to different depths wihtin the material and in fact making silicon today is
a very strongly understood industrial process. After all, we'd never have
gotten to 3GHZ processors if we couldn't consistenly manufacture stable
devices down to 0.8 micron dimensions.

Now if you are unhappy with the calibrated SIGMA colours, after all, all
cameras have a unique/indivudal calibration table loaded during manufacture,
then make your own.

Get some standard colour filters, some good flat light source and take some
pictures. Then make your own calibration tables for each indivdual colour
and apply these in your favourite photo adjustment program. The benifit you
may gain from this is thta you set up a calibration for each pixel.

rtt

 

Better yet...get a camera that doesn't use oddball technology and
renders colors well without special contortions.

 

Why should you have to? When you buy a Canon or Nikon SLR, there are
no concerns about this at all. The camera should come from the
manufacturer in an ideal configuration to begin with.

Mike

 

I think some people LIKE to do the work themselves. I remember waaaaay
back when I bought a Canon AE1[1], I tried and tried to get the manual
settings to do as well as the automatic settings. Why? No good reason
as I now recall.

[1] Damn, I miss that camera.

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First - I don't know if there is a real problem
in the manufacturing proces.
Second - I don't know if there ain't either.

But I do know that the overlap of the color sensitivities of
the color layers is huge and weird. You will get lots of noise
in the process of converting to RGB and the manufacturing
process has rather to be absolutely perfect as the color
conversion will enlarge any defects strongly.


/Roland

 

Brilliant start of a post!

Why don't you calm down some degrees instead of attacking
all that moves?


/Roland

 

Our two resident trolls Randall and Preddy, should fight it out in their own
thread.

 

No - I mean like ...

1 ... not well defined colors, i.e. slightly color blind.
As far as I have heard the SD9 has a hard time to distinguish
shades of green and blue.
2 ... very noisy color rendition


/Roland

 

I've never lied about Sigma. It's cheap crap that's marketed to
amateurs who are too cheap to buy OEM. And their cameras are poorly
made using oddball technology which results in strange color
renditions. Did I miss anything?

 

Don't put me in the same class as George/Steve. I just tell it like it
is...and a lot of people can't handle the truth.

 

you mean like blown highlights?

Arty