Sigma SD 10 Newbie Help UPDATE

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Lex Mathews, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. What are you talking about? You asked, I answered
    as best as I know. If you don't want answers, don't
    If you choose to interprete everything you don't like
    to hear as negative - nope - not right now.

    Roland Karlsson, Aug 1, 2004
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  2. whinge - whinge - whinge all you seem to do is whinge

    have you anything positive to say?

    Arty Phacting, Aug 1, 2004
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  3. Lex Mathews

    Crownfield Guest

    Crownfield, Aug 1, 2004
  4. I don't see Preddy's posts except in follow-ups, but let me assure you that
    I was NOT laughed off of's Sigma site. There are a few posters
    there that are desperately angry over the existence of my web site, though
    there are also several that provided very helpful advice, which I used in
    the latest update of my site. Looks like George has found yet another alias
    in Lex Mathews, someone who has never posted on Usenet prior to inquiring
    about the SD10.
    Steven M. Scharf, Aug 1, 2004
  5. Well, you know ol' George...master of bullshit.
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 1, 2004
  6. Lex Mathews

    Lex Mathews Guest

    Hey, MORON: The reason I never posted was that I never had the camera
    before - as I said in my update, I haven't had a new digital camera in many,
    many years, and as a hobbyist photographer, have been wanting to try the new
    X3 sensor out - hence the term "Newbie" in my subject line - can you put
    that together?

    All I was looking for was some helpful technical advice and balanced
    suggestions. But along with that I got paranoid wackos like you who can't
    stand not to be agreed with. Your ultra-paranoid reasoning goes like this:
    "If they disagree with me, then they must be liars or fakes or secret paid
    operatives." That is very, very sad for you. I can only imagine what your
    personal relationships must be like - how many people have you driven away
    with your paranoia and suspicions? Is there anyone who can stand to be
    around you? This can't be the only forum in which you display your
    personality disorder.
    Lex Mathews, Aug 2, 2004
  7. Chill out, fuckhead. Sigma's reputation is well known in these parts
    and there's a frequent troll who persists in lying about their
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 2, 2004
  8. No, what I was stating, is that you never posted on any newsgroup, ever,
    prior to your Sigma posts. This is classic Steve Gionovella. Furthermore,
    most people post PRIOR to spending $1500-2000, so they can get opinions
    about the various products out there that would fit their needs, rather than
    coming here for help after making a mistake in their choice.
    You should have asked for this advice before you spent your money. Now
    you're throwing good money after bad trying to make the best of the
    I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, as long as they can do it
    calmly and logically. The fact that you can do neither speaks volumes.
    Not at all. But when someone suddenly appears on Usenet, for the first time
    ever in any newsgroup, suddenly asking advice about a purchase that they
    already made, it's very classic Steve Gionovella. Either you're very naive,
    spending all that money prior to seeking the advice of experts, or you're
    yet another SG troll. If you had searched for information on the SD10, and
    read the reviews, you would not have purchased this camera.
    Very weak personal attacks. I can understand your defensiveness, but you
    should put your efforts into correcting the situation rather than attacking
    Steven M. Scharf, Aug 2, 2004
  9. I see that many posst seem to complain about the SIGMA colour reproduction
    and then there is a web site that says silcon colour seperation is not very
    good, compared to a matrix affair.

    Well, silicon has a property that different wavelengths of light penetrate
    to different depths wihtin the material and in fact making silicon today is
    a very strongly understood industrial process. After all, we'd never have
    gotten to 3GHZ processors if we couldn't consistenly manufacture stable
    devices down to 0.8 micron dimensions.

    Now if you are unhappy with the calibrated SIGMA colours, after all, all
    cameras have a unique/indivudal calibration table loaded during manufacture,
    then make your own.

    Get some standard colour filters, some good flat light source and take some
    pictures. Then make your own calibration tables for each indivdual colour
    and apply these in your favourite photo adjustment program. The benifit you
    may gain from this is thta you set up a calibration for each pixel.

    Richard Tomkins, Aug 2, 2004
  10. Better yet...get a camera that doesn't use oddball technology and
    renders colors well without special contortions.
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 2, 2004
  11. Lex Mathews

    Mike Kohary Guest

    Why should you have to? When you buy a Canon or Nikon SLR, there are
    no concerns about this at all. The camera should come from the
    manufacturer in an ideal configuration to begin with.

    Mike Kohary, Aug 2, 2004
  12. I think some people LIKE to do the work themselves. I remember waaaaay
    back when I bought a Canon AE1[1], I tried and tried to get the manual
    settings to do as well as the automatic settings. Why? No good reason
    as I now recall.

    [1] Damn, I miss that camera.

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  14. First - I don't know if there is a real problem
    in the manufacturing proces.
    Second - I don't know if there ain't either.

    But I do know that the overlap of the color sensitivities of
    the color layers is huge and weird. You will get lots of noise
    in the process of converting to RGB and the manufacturing
    process has rather to be absolutely perfect as the color
    conversion will enlarge any defects strongly.

    Roland Karlsson, Aug 2, 2004
  15. Brilliant start of a post!

    Why don't you calm down some degrees instead of attacking
    all that moves?

    Roland Karlsson, Aug 2, 2004
  16. Lex Mathews

    D.R. Guest

    Our two resident trolls Randall and Preddy, should fight it out in their own
    D.R., Aug 3, 2004
  17. No - I mean like ...

    1 ... not well defined colors, i.e. slightly color blind.
    As far as I have heard the SD9 has a hard time to distinguish
    shades of green and blue.
    2 ... very noisy color rendition

    Roland Karlsson, Aug 3, 2004
  18. I've never lied about Sigma. It's cheap crap that's marketed to
    amateurs who are too cheap to buy OEM. And their cameras are poorly
    made using oddball technology which results in strange color
    renditions. Did I miss anything?
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 3, 2004
  19. Don't put me in the same class as George/Steve. I just tell it like it
    is...and a lot of people can't handle the truth.
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 3, 2004
  20. you mean like blown highlights?


    Arty Phacting, Aug 3, 2004
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