Slide scanner

Discussion in 'Photography' started by rfdjr1, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. rfdjr1

    rfdjr1 Guest

    Any recommendations for a 35mm slide scanner? I have a Canon LIDE600F scanner
    which has a film adapter, but it doesn't take slide, and I have a ton of slided
    I'd like to start working on. I know there are scanners out there, I'd just like
    some suggestions as to a good one. Also, do any exist that can batch scan?
    Thanks much.
     
    rfdjr1, Apr 19, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    You may try to find a 2nd-hand Nikon coolscan on ebay, but be warned:
    they are expen$ive, more now than when they were new!
    Pacific Image - http://www.scanace.com/ - does some good ones at a
    good price, but you'll need to purchase vuescan to drive them: their
    scanning software is beyond unusable!
    Make sure if you buy one that it has a valid warranty that covers your
    location: mine - purchased from Adorama - developed a bad line and it
    won't be replaced as apparently "overseas" is not covered by their
    warranty...
    Don't waste time with older scanners like Minoltas and such: they have
    been out of the market for nearly 10 years and most units are old and
    tired and nearly impossible to service if needed.
    The new el-cheapo usb scanners based on digital frame sensors are
    mostly useless: they only do jpg output - not raw - and have no
    capacity for any sensible colour correction, scratch elimination and
    many other features that are essential for good scanning.
    And be warned: scanning is not a casual activity: you'll need to learn
    a bit about it. Fortunately, there are quite a few sites still around
    with good info.
     
    Noons, Apr 19, 2012
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  3. rfdjr1

    rfdjr1 Guest

    Wow, yeah, expensive for sure. A little out of my price range to scan old slides
    of my kids!
     
    rfdjr1, Apr 19, 2012
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  4. You've missed the wave on this; most of the decent slide scanners have
    been discontinued.

    (Flatbed scanners with transparency adapters aren't very successful for
    35mm originals, especially slides.)

    What you really want is a Nikon Coolscan 5000 ED with the slide feeder
    option (which is what I have). Not available new for several years,
    though. This combination will batch-scan a stack of around 50
    (depending on mount thickness). (Any given batch needs to be roughly
    the *same* mount thickness; you adjust the feeder to handle that.)

    In fact, I'm wondering if there will be a second wave of good film
    scanners. I see tertiary companies coming up with models, though none
    of them get very good reviews so far.

    An alternative people use, which is much faster but in many people's
    opinions doesn't produce best-quality results, is to use a "slide
    copying adapter" on a DSLR. Or bodge something up -- a slide stage to
    position the slide accurately, a flash and suitable diffusing plastic to
    illuminate it evenly from the back, a macro lens.

    (If what you're going for is web-quality images, photographing with a
    DSLR is *definitely* the way to go, and even an upper-tier flatbed like
    the Epson V700 is worth considering. If you want to make enlargements,
    though, I wouldn't count on the flatbed, and I've got a V700 to play
    with so I've compared them head to head. It's useful for medium-format
    and up negatives, and it's useful for making digital "contact sheets"
    out of a page of slides or negs at once, just good enough to index from,
    but it's not good enough for most uses for me.)
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Apr 19, 2012
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  5. rfdjr1

    GMAN Guest

    Its worth it if they are kid pics you cant replace.
     
    GMAN, Apr 19, 2012
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    Dallas Guest

    Coolscans really seem to hold their value... (they have doubled in
    value since they've been discontinued) I've been watching attentively
    for the same reason as you. A plan I've come up with is to purchase
    one on eBay, use it for 3-6 months then turn it around on eBay again.
    After all, once you've scanned your slides you'll be done for good. In
    theory, you could use it, then sell it for the same or more than you
    paid for it.

    I posted the same question back in December. You might find some of
    these extra comments useful:

    http://tinyurl.com/7sn5qt4
     
    Dallas, Apr 19, 2012
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  7. rfdjr1

    Alan Browne Guest

    As David says, the Nikon 5000ED is very good.
    (I have the 9000ED <snobbish sniff>).

    Unfortunately the Nikon scanning software is crap. You can use VueScan
    instead, however, or the over-the-top expensive SilverFast (and others).

    Second hand Minolta 5400's will do the trick as well. Though no auto
    feed is available. Get the first edition if possible (more reliable
    than the "II" version).

    Whatever scanner you get make sure it has the "ICE" function. Then
    you'll have no worry over dust or scratches.

    Most importantly, before scanning do a careful pass through your slides
    and select those "worthy" of scanning.

    Also consider a commercial service. The results (resolution) may be
    adequate for you and the savings in time immense.
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 20, 2012
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  8. rfdjr1

    Alan Browne Guest

    Use a mail in service in that case. 2 or 3 slides per $.

    As I said in the other post, do winnow it down to those worth capturing.
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 20, 2012
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  9. That's a bargain if the condition is good. It was something of a
    bargain at its list price of $500 .

    I might well have gotten it myself, except it won't take the slide feed
    adapter, and I have lots of old slides (fewer unscanned than then, but
    still quite a few).
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Apr 20, 2012
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  10. And I wimped out and got an Epson V700 for larger format work; but I
    don't have enough big stuff to justify the cost of the 9000ED (luckily
    :)).
    I was pretty happy with Nikon Scan 4, but it's hard to install on
    Windows 7 (you have to hack the .inf file or some such). I'm not fully
    comfortable with VueScan yet, but it's widely used.
    ICE is very very handy. Too bad it doesn't work on my silver B&W
    negatives.
    I finally got myself to make lower-res scans for screen use, figuring
    I'd learn from those which if any I needed to make high-res scans of.
    I've been unhappy with both price and quality so far, sadly.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Apr 20, 2012
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  11. rfdjr1

    Alan Browne Guest

    Not me. Esp. with film strips (120) where lining up frames correctly is
    difficult and not intuitive in their crappy interface (moot point - NS 4
    does not work under "Lion" on the Mac. It's dead. (Even Nikon
    recommend Vuescan - which isn't perfect either).
    Life ain't perfect.
    I do both. If the frame looks really good under the loupe, I go full
    res from the start. If not sure, or a negative where I can't judge the
    sharpness in the area of interest well, then I'll scan @2000 instead of
    4000 to check it out. (that's still a 20 Mpix image from 120).
    It's a compromise to be sure.
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 20, 2012
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    Higgs Boson Guest


    [...]

    *******That's what I was thinkiing. Are you anywhere near a Costco?
    Their service is good and inexpensive.

    HB
    [...]
     
    Higgs Boson, Apr 22, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    you know it's possible to fit the standard feeder to the VED, don't
    you?
    ;-)
     
    Noons, Apr 23, 2012
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  15. rfdjr1

    Noons Guest

    If you don't, I want it!
    Mine is getting tired and I need a backup just in case.
     
    Noons, Apr 23, 2012
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  16. rfdjr1

    Noons Guest

    On Macs. On Windows and provided one uses 32-bit OS, Nikonscan works
    like a charm.
    Likely the best solution overall for a once only exercise.
     
    Noons, Apr 23, 2012
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  17. Not officially. You're saying it works fine anyway? Figures. Well, I
    paid off that credit card years ago.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Apr 24, 2012
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  18. rfdjr1

    Noons Guest

    Russell D. wrote,on my timestamp of 25/04/2012 3:13 AM:

    Well... you suck!
    :)

    That is a worry for me... I use Nikonscan quite successfully in WinXP Pro. I'm
    told that using it in a Virtualbox vm running XP also works well even when
    hosted in Win7. But I don't have time to waste figuring it out, so my scanning
    desktop remains in XP Pro...
    Vuescan is great but it sucks at previews with Nikon Coolscans.
    And for slides Nikonscan on Windoze is as good as anything. For colour
    negatives, I often get as good as or better with Vuescan.

    Welcome to the club...
    If you find it, let me know: I'll pay above market value!
     
    Noons, Apr 26, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    David Dyer-Bennet wrote,on my timestamp of 25/04/2012 1:36 AM:
    I've seen a web site with the steps needed to make the roll feeder work. And
    there is an addenda somewhere on how to mod for the slide feeder.
    A 5000ED is essentially a VED with a modified light source (like the 9000 one)
    and faster transmission. Otherwise, they are very much the same. The normal
    strip feeder and slide feeder are interchangeable between the two.
     
    Noons, Apr 26, 2012
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