Slide scanning recommendations

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by BRN, Jan 30, 2006.

  1. BRN

    BRN Guest

    Hi all,

    I have several hundred slides I would like to scan. I figure I have a
    couple of options:
    1) Pay a professional to scan them
    2) Buy a slide scanner (prefer with automatic loading tray).

    I'd like to be able to comfortably blow the images up to 11" x 14" for
    printing after scanned.

    What is the most cost effective way to do this? Professional scanning or
    perhaps buying a used slide scanner (eBay or locally)? If I buy a used
    scanner, any recommendations for a slide scanner under $200 or maybe even
    under $150? Any rec's for a slide scanning service?

    Thanks,

    BN
     
    BRN, Jan 30, 2006
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  2. Depends what your time is work.
    You can get a scanner that will do what you need, with automatic stack
    feeder, for just slightly less than $1500. On other words, your ideas
    about price are wildly optimistic.

    However, the stack loader is a *big* part of the price; not only is it
    expensive in itself (Nikon SF-210 $450 @ B&H); it also attaches only
    to the top-of-the-line Nikon 35mm scanner (Super Coolscan 5000 ED,
    $980 @ B&H).

    Otherwise, the Nikon Coolscan V ED ($550 @ B&H) will do what you
    need, with the slides fed manually.

    If you want anything like 11x14, forget about any of the
    consumer-level flatbed scanners with transparency illuminators.

    I find I spend 5 to 30 minutes per image in scanning and preliminary
    image fixup; to give you a vague idea how much time you're talking
    about.

    I'm guessing these are older slides. I'd call the "ICE" feature
    (infrared scan channel plus software to fill in the damaged areas by
    interpolation) an abolute necessity for scanning older slides.

    I don't know what decent commercial scanning costs these days. Used
    to be I could get a modestly competent job by getting Kodak Photo CDs
    made at around $1/frame, but that option has gone away and the rates
    I've seen lately have been much higher (but for high-end scanning).
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Jan 30, 2006
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  3. BRN

    Steven Toney Guest

    I'm in the same decision choice right now as well

    another scanner is the Braun Multimag at 1300$ adorama

    but I'm leaning toward the nikon combo for scanning many hundred slide

    I found a place that would do 4000DPI scan with ICE for rougly 85cents
    apiece as the cheapest - as you say most are much more with the extra
    processing of ICE

    It would not take long with many slides to recoup 1400$ then it's a time
    decision and control thing

    I did a test run with one hundred slide manually with a minolta Dual scan
    IV -- this test clearly showed the need for feeder and ICE technology for
    this task
     
    Steven Toney, Jan 30, 2006
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  4. BRN

    Steven Toney Guest

    good post

    I think I'm in the "get the toy" camp and will probably get the nikon combo
    soon

    for the OP -- I expect 2400 dpi or a little less would do well for 11x14
    prints -- would save a little time and space

    I found 1600\2400 dpi ok for most uses and will likely reserve the 3200\4000
    dpi scans for the good ones (a choice)

    The worry over slides disappearing when set in for scanning \ duplication is
    a real thing -- seen it happen
     
    Steven Toney, Jan 30, 2006
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  5. BRN

    BRN Guest

    How about used, "last generation" scanners?

    BN
     
    BRN, Jan 30, 2006
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  6. BRN

    Father Kodak Guest

    Nonetheless, if you look on ebay, you will find a bunch of scanners,
    Nikon and other brands, that are being sold because their owners have
    finished scanning in their negs/slides and have no further use for the
    machine.

    I don't necessarily agree with that position, but I understand why
    people will think that way. You may find later on that you need to
    redo a scan to improve on what you have currently.
    You haven't commented on software choices:
    a. vendor's own software
    b. Vuescan
    c. Silverfast
    But, I have heard that ICE doesn't work too well with Kodachromes or
    with black-and-white negs. I have no personal experience in this area,
    though.
    For the Nikon 5000 ED that 4000 dpi scan produces a 125 MB file at max
    color depth.
    Yes, and then you have the added issue that recordable DVD media
    lifetime is questionable. But if you have a lot of slides to scan,
    you get up to multiple GB very quickly. You need a more sophisticated
    backup strategy.
    Absolutely agree.

    [snip]

    Father Kodak
     
    Father Kodak, Jan 30, 2006
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  7. BRN

    Kinon O'cann Guest

    Kodak Photo CD. Do not confuse this with the Picture CD, which is a much
    lower resolution service. Very good results, moderate price.
     
    Kinon O'cann, Jan 31, 2006
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  8. Quite possibly, except for the stack feeder. At least, I heard
    essentially nothing good about the predecessor to the SF-210.

    For 11x14, I'd want 4000 dpi or better, though. (It depends on how
    picky you are, basically; 2700 is marginal, not hopeless.)

    Nikon and Konica-Minolta scanners with suitable specs are likely to do
    well (the Minolta don't have actual ICE, I don't think, though, and
    I'm not at all clear their equivalent is adequate; I haven't had a
    chance to make side-by-side comparisons).
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Jan 31, 2006
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  9. BRN

    Bruce Graham Guest

    on mine, Kodachrome doesn't clean up with infrared. Some of the newer
    ones are OK?
     
    Bruce Graham, Jan 31, 2006
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  10. BRN

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    For Kodachromes try Polaroid's (free) dust and scratch removal
    utility... works great! :)

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Jan 31, 2006
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  11. BRN

    HvdV Guest

    That sums it up: 'usually'. Once you get the hang of it scanning film is a
    nice lazy 'basket weaving' activity.

    One thing to add: Minolta quit the consumer business, so investing in a nice
    new Minolta 5400-II is probably not so smart. Though owning one I'd say one
    choice less!

    -- Hans
     
    HvdV, Jan 31, 2006
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  12. It worked 90+% of the time on my LS-2000, though the docs warned that
    it wouldn't work. They appear to have removed the restriction in my
    5000 ED.

    Now, silver-image B&W film it *really doesn't* work for. With
    Kodachrome, it's probably the cyan dye; if you are approaching max
    cyan density, you may have ICE problems in those areas of the image
    with older scanners.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Jan 31, 2006
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  13. BRN

    HvdV Guest

    Keith,
    I hope you are right in that they see the film scanner as a computer peripheral
    like their laserprinters rather than 'consumer photo equipment'. Did you see
    a positive announcement that this is indeed the case?

    -- Hans
     
    HvdV, Feb 1, 2006
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