SLR and SLR like cameras

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by alertjean, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. alertjean

    alertjean Guest

    Hi,
    I am a newcomer to photography.Just tell me the difference between a
    SLR and SLR like camera.For example Canon EOS 350D is an (D)SLR and
    Fuji S5500 is called an 'SLR like' camera..By single lens reflex I
    suppose that what you see through the view finder is what you are going
    to get as the image.i.e front end optics for both the viewfinder and
    image capturing mechanism are same.

    Both of these cameras satisfies my definition.But only one is qualified
    as an SLR why ??
     
    alertjean, Aug 30, 2005
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    Mike Warren Guest

    The term that seems to be used most often with cameras that
    have an electronic view finder is ZLR (Zoom Lens Reflex). See
    rec.photo.digital.zlr.

    I don't quite understand why since I thought "reflex" referred to
    the moving mirror.

    In the early days of DSLRs, ZLRs were known (at least in my circles)
    as prosumer cameras. That was when DSLRs were only likely to
    be owned by professionals as they were so expensive.

    -Mike
     
    Mike Warren, Aug 30, 2005
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  3. Current usage may include the term ZLR (zoom lens reflex) to describe
    SLR-like cameras (although I don't particularly care for the term myself).
    These cameras tend to have the same shape as an SLR, and have the manual
    controls which are lacking in the simple point-and-shoot flat bodied
    cameras. There is a newsgroup devoted to such ZLR cameras here:

    rec.photo.digital.zlr

    Some people demand that on an SLR, the reflex part must be achieved with
    mirrors, whereas on the ZLR the reflex is electronic. This does limit the
    quality of the reflex finder, and may prevent highly accurate viewing such
    as depth-of-field preview or manual focus. For this group,
    interchangeable lenses and complete systems of add-ons distinguish the SLR
    from the ZLR.

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 30, 2005
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    Toa Guest

    Both of these cameras satisfies my definition.But only one is qualified
    This website may help
    http://www.steves-digicams.com/digi_dictionary.html

    From there

    ZLR - Zoom Lens Reflex, a term coined by Olympus to describe their fixed
    mount lens SLR type cameras. An SLR camera has interchangeable lenses, a ZLR
    has a non-removeable zoom lens.

    Toa
     
    Toa, Aug 30, 2005
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    Beach Bum Guest

    AFAIK it does.
     
    Beach Bum, Aug 30, 2005
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  6. Technically, AFAIK, there are only two DZLRs- the Olympus E10 and E20. They
    have (non-interchangeable) zoom lenses, and use a mirror and prism to form
    the viewfinder image.
    This is true. It's also why a camera with an EVF shouldn't be a ZLR.

    Martin.
     
    Martin Francis, Aug 30, 2005
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    frederick Guest

    Does the mirror in a rolleiflex move?
     
    frederick, Aug 30, 2005
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  8. SNIP
    In some it does, in the twin lens reflex (TLR) it doesn't.

    Bart
     
    Bart van der Wolf, Aug 30, 2005
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    JMW Guest

    in my sl2000f, yes.

    Jan
     
    JMW, Aug 31, 2005
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    no one Guest

    I think they're making a distinction between a camera with
    interchangeable lenses (SLR) and a camera with a fixed
    non-interchangeable lens (SLR like).

    The Fuji S5500 appears to be a SLR, just one without interchangable
    lenses. Looks to me like when you look through the viewfinder, you're
    looking through the taking lens. And that's the definition of a SLR,
    i.e. Single Lens Reflex camera.
     
    no one, Aug 31, 2005
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    no one Guest

    Actually it refers to the folded light path leading to the viewfinder.
    In the SLR that's usually done with the moving mirror.
     
    no one, Aug 31, 2005
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  12. Yes. It's a non-obvious, non-logical, non-official quirk of the
    terminology, but that's the way people got used to using the terms
    from the 1950s until the 1990s, or some such.

    And, for many purposes of discussion, Leica rangefinders were grouped
    with the "SLRs" during those periods -- because they were 35mm cameras
    used by serious photographers. Nobody would have said that an M3
    *was* an SLR, but their users shared many of the same interests
    anyway. For a lot of purposes, the interchangeable lenses were *more*
    important than the viewing through the taking lens.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Sep 1, 2005
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