smooth slow camcorders?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by peter, Nov 12, 2006.

  1. peter

    peter Guest

    I want to shoot some action in slow motion for learning purpose (e.g. a
    tennis serve). Recently I stumbled across description of sony hdr-hc3 with a
    smooth slow mode that records at 4x the normal speed. Has anyone tried this
    feature? Is there a video clip sample?

    Unfortunately it only records 3 seconds (playback in 12 seconds), and is
    only a 1-ccd device. Is there something at the prosumer level (on par with
    vx2100) with this smooth slow capability? I'm interested in both HD and non
    hd ones (under $5k).
     
    peter, Nov 12, 2006
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  2. Take a google at photosonics.

    Also check out the Sony Varicam, expensivo.

    A way to kind of fake this is to use a software plug-in for your
    editing system that creates super-slow motion using frame
    interpolation. That is, it makes up many extra fake frames between the
    existing ones, morphing between the two original frames. Realvis is one
    brand, but there are others out there, and this may be a cheaper way to
    get this done for you if you don't mind the trade-offs.
     
    nobody special, Nov 12, 2006
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  3. Make that a Panasonic ;-)

    -m-
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    Martin Heffels, Nov 12, 2006
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  4. peter

    Spex Guest

    Sony HVR-V1 £2950 or $4199 can record up to 12 secs of super slo-mo.

    Beginning of Dec timeframe.

    Having seen some clips all I can say is that is a bit of a gimmick. If
    you don't mind the huge resolution loss and are just interested in
    motion then it could serve some use. Very limited though.
     
    Spex, Nov 12, 2006
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  5. peter

    nick666 Guest

    would it not be better to use the slowmo feature of your editing
    software? Used AVID FreeDV and it worked fine for what I needed it to
    do for a 5sec slomo shot in a documentary.

    It was not HD though.
     
    nick666, Nov 13, 2006
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  6. The OP wants to use it for sports analysis. Not good to have interpolated
    frames, because you want to see what really happened. High-speed camera's
    are expensive, and I think for low-budget, the mentioned Sony will be a
    good, affordable choice.

    cheers

    -martin-
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    Martin Heffels, Nov 13, 2006
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  7. peter

    adric22 Guest

    Out of curiosity, have you actually tried it using a regular camera? I
    did some experiments recently with a regular NTSC camera (using DV
    interface) and took some shots of a water-balloon being popped and a
    fire-cracker inside of an ant-pile. If you think about regular NTSC as
    being 60 fields per second (versus 30 frames per second) then you can
    make that into a 60 frame per second video by reducing the vertical
    resolution by half. Adobe Premiere does this automatically to
    interlaced video when you slow it down. I was amazed at what I could
    see with this method.

    If you haven't tried it already, you might be surprised what a plain
    camcorder can accomplish.
     
    adric22, Nov 13, 2006
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  8. peter

    Spex Guest

    http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/articles/camcorders/SonyHVR-V1_camcorder.htm

    One Super Slo-mo clip at bottom of page.
     
    Spex, Nov 15, 2006
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