Snapshots of Afghanistan - August 2009

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    Because it is.
    I am not a liberal. I also probably have a lot more years military
    service than you do.
    Your very point is exactly why the US can not win in Afghanistan and why
    it lost in Iraq. The problem is that as you are far to stupid and
    blinkered to understand you can not win.
     
    Chris H, Sep 11, 2009
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  2. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    I have seen many such films taken during the liberation.
    However none of the type you describe taken by the Nazis

    Can you find any links? I am sure this has been documented in detail
     
    Chris H, Sep 11, 2009
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  3. In message "Bill
    Neither Bush NOR Obama has EVER made a serious effort to find OBL.

    And Bush, Obama, McCain, Barr, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Dole, and Nader voters
    ALL know it.
     
    Father Guido Sarducci, Sep 11, 2009
  4. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    tony cooper Guest

    What's this? Mr "I get all my information from me mates" ChrisH wants
    links? Wasn't it you who got snarky with me for asking you to supply
    links for your more outrageous and inaccurate statements?
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2009
  5. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Rol_Lei Nut Guest

    Please get your facts straight (again)!

    And please read some good *books* about history (and maybe everything else).

    One of the most awful episodes of recent history should at least be
    remembered correctly...

    BTW: (and finally somehow on topic) Leica's owners were involved in
    getting large numbers of Jewish employeees out of Germany.
     
    Rol_Lei Nut, Sep 12, 2009
  6. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Rol_Lei Nut Guest


    At this point I can only let BG keep shooting himself in his foot...
     
    Rol_Lei Nut, Sep 12, 2009
  7. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    stephe_k Guest


    So did FOX news explain that the insurance companies right now ration
    health care and deny claims and coverage that end up in a LOT of people
    in pain or dying? Or did they leave that part out?

    My last surgery was for a torn ACL in my knee, the insurance company
    said this was "elective surgery" because they said "You can still walk
    on it and it's only to relieve some normal pain associated with this
    sort of injury". So even though I had health insurance at the time, I
    paid $8500 out of pocket to have this fixed so I could continue to work.

    Maybe I'm misguided, but I trust my government more than a FOR PROFIT
    insurance company to have my best interests at heart. But maybe it's
    being a "true american" to not trust the government today?

    As far as rationing organs, unfortunately, that is needed. They have a
    limited supply and they have to be given to the person who is most
    likely to get some benefit from it. Unless you have "organ donor" on
    your DL, I don't wanna hear you bitching about that one. And yes it is
    sad that if a 75 year old man and a 35 year old man both need the same
    heart, the 35 year old man is most likely going to get it. If that is
    your idea of a "death panel", you might note that either choice one or
    the other ends up dead.

    As far as who is more likely to limit care based on cost, I'd put MUCH
    more faith in the Gov who, no matter who is in power, doesn't seem to
    have problems with over spending vs a FOR PROFIT insurance company who
    is more concerned about how many millions the CEO can take home this year.

    if you don't think health coverage is being rationed today, you're
    wearing some REALLY good blinders.

    Stephanie
     
    stephe_k, Sep 12, 2009
  8. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    stephe_k Guest


    So you trust a for profit insurance company more than the united states
    government to make this choice in YOUR best interest? And I'm sure in
    the same breath you will call yourself a "true american".

    Stephanie
     
    stephe_k, Sep 12, 2009
  9. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    stephe_k Guest


    Yet you support invading Iraq, which had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Please
    explain how that is NOT "I don't just go out and kill anyone who happens
    to be around"

    Stephanie
     
    stephe_k, Sep 12, 2009
  10. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    Lost as in did not get any of the objectives (bar 1)
    Lost as in Al-Qeada gained most of their objectives.

    1st objective for the US *AND* Al-Qeada was to get rid of Saddam.
    After than no US objectives have been met but most of the Al-Qeada ones
    have.
     
    Chris H, Sep 12, 2009
  11. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    Bill was talking about published films. They have all been shown
    multiple times on TV. Bill saw them in a public viewing.
     
    Chris H, Sep 12, 2009
  12. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    IT was the only way at the time to bury the dead so as to stop disease
    spreading. It is not done too far differently today where there are
    mass bodies to deal with.
    No. Many of the mass burials like that were done after liberation. The
    bodies were buried rather than cremated as the Germans had usually blown
    up the crematoria.
    I think you are wrong. When the allies got to the camps. They had to
    manage the situation. This included getting the inmates back on to solid
    food and checking them for diseases. This took a while and many died
    during this process.

    The reason being when rescued you relax and that is when people died.
    Also many were so malnourished that it takes time to get the body
    accepting food. In some cases people broke into the food store and eat.
    They were then is a bad way as the body, in a starvation condition,
    could not deal with the food.

    The Brits and Americans did have to bury, and quickly, 100's of bodies
    and clear up the camps that in many cases the Germans had just walked
    out of leaving the inmates to stave.

    From Memory all the film was taken by the Allies partly for propaganda
    and partly for historical record. The Germans AFAIK did not take that
    much inside the camps and when it was clear the war was not going well
    probably destroyed much of what there was.

    SO it is unlikely to be German film of themselves doing mass murder.
    More likely to be the Allies.
     
    Chris H, Sep 12, 2009
  13. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    tony cooper Guest

    And the difference is? Your outrageous and inaccurate statements are
    about public issues. You claimed, for example, that "over 2 million"
    Brits participated in the 2003 anti-war demo. UK police estimated the
    crowd at 750,000. The information is public on BBC's website.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2009
  14. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Gosh, "only" 750,000, and of course the ESTIMATE by the police must be
    completely accurate. I bet that they sent a lot of effort assessing
    the exact size of the crowd.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 12, 2009
  15. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    tony cooper Guest

    I know you are not a particularly deep thinker, but - in this case -
    there's a big difference between 750,000 and two million people. As a
    percentage of the population, it's a significant difference.

    And, yes, police do put a lot of effort into estimating crowd size.
    The need to determine how many people are needed for crowd control.
    This involves moving officers and equipment from outlying areas to the
    area of the problem.

    The point, however, is that ChrisH flings out figures without checking
    them. It's two million of this, 90% of that, or everyone or no one.
    He has no credibility, but wants others to be credible.

    Chris could have made a reasonable point by saying that a crowd
    estimated at 750,000 protested. That's a significant number. But, he
    has to indulge in his usual hyperbole and pump up the figures.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2009
  16. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Too soon to say that about Obama. Bush said OBL wasn't important.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 12, 2009
  17. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Ray Fischer Guest

    I now you're a stupid asshole.
    No, idiot, there isn't.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 12, 2009
  18. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Ray Fischer Guest

    I know you're a stupid asshole.
    No, there isn't. Not when it comes to crowds.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 12, 2009
  19. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    Other people put it at 2 million
     
    Chris H, Sep 13, 2009
  20. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    The Police only estimated the single march.... Many went strait to the
    rally at the end of the march. Every non Met Police estimate was 2
    million in total.

    Not to mention the other meetings around the country and the millions
    who protested in other countries across the world. In Spain the number
    against the was was 95% which is why at the following election the
    ruling party lost all it's seats.
     
    Chris H, Sep 13, 2009
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