Snapshots of Afghanistan - August 2009

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Ray Fischer Guest

    Which supplements your Medicare coverage. If you had to pay it all
    yourself it'd cost about $2000 per month.
    Make that $3000.
    Except that it isn't.
    You've already admitted that it's a supplemental policy. That means
    that you DO depend upon the government.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 16, 2009
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  2. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    So if there was no justification for attacking Saudi there is even less
    for attacking Afghanistan and none at all for attacking Iraq.
     
    Chris H, Sep 16, 2009
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  3. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Bob Larter Guest

    Very funny. You know what I meant.
     
    Bob Larter, Sep 16, 2009
  4. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Bob Larter Guest

    Bush did.
    Rubbish.
     
    Bob Larter, Sep 18, 2009
  5. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    SO why didn't the US do that? No, it didn't it did a full scale
    invasion despite eye on the ground doing recce.
    That si up to the UN otherwise the UK has reason to bomb the USA.
    No it was hatched up by Bush......
     
    Chris H, Sep 18, 2009
  6. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    What would you suggest to win this fight?
     
    mikey4, Sep 19, 2009
  7. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    Difficult... The USA dug a huge hole way before 9/11 and dragged others
    in with it.

    The answer in Iraq is to get out. The Iraqi's will have a blood bath for
    6 months to sort out the rival factions. It will end up with a pro
    Iranian system of eastern democracy. This will mean that The
    Mediterranean to Afghanistan will be pro Iranian.

    Remove US support for Israel and start enforcing UN resolutions and
    Sanctions against Israel. Long run Israel will not survive in it's
    current form. Note the US has to separate Israel == Jew.

    This whilst causing problems in Israel will calm the area from N. Africa
    to China. Including Afghanistan

    The way to solve Afghanistan will be along road and requires serious
    changes in the way the US military operates. It will in the short term
    give a higher US body count as you will need to do foot patrols and not
    just shoot in the general direction of gunshots. Also stop the drone
    attacks. I am not sure the US military is up to the task for this.

    This will change the nature of this *POLICE ACTION* it is not a war.
    Coupled with the other changes about it will take the heat out of the
    situation.

    The politicians then have to talk to the Tailban. Many of them will
    get back into power in the free elections. Live with it.

    What the situation is now is damage limitation and not loosing. The
    afghans have a weapon the US does not have.... time. For the Afghans a
    decade is not long. For the Americans it is at least 3 presidents.
     
    Chris H, Sep 20, 2009
  8. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    Who is the "they" that doesn't ?
     
    Chris H, Sep 20, 2009
  9. Oh, one point where we actually agree on. I am surprised.
    Then I suppose you also object to government controlled retirement
    funding, government controlled road building and maintenance, government
    controlled police and military, etc?

    This has nothing to do with socialism. For 8 years I lived less than 2
    miles from the Berlin Wall. I visited East Berlin frequently, I had
    friends suffering in the real existing socialism, I still have friends
    who grew up under those conditions. Don't you dare telling me that
    social care has anything to do with socialism.

    It is nothing but an obvious ploy by FOX and the ultra right propaganda
    to confuse social and socialist until people are so scared that they
    don't know the difference any more. As I said before:
    "If the meaning of a scare word doesn't fit your purpose then just
    change the meaning of that word and repeat it over and over until people
    actually start believing it."
    And it obviously worked very well on you.

    As far as public health and social care is concerned: Don't you think
    it's time for the USA to advance into the 20th century? All other
    western countries have reached the 21th century already after all.
    Then I suppose the board of directors of General Motors must be ultra
    socialist. Because if memory serves me right it was them who went to
    Washington several times and begged the government on their knees to
    take that big hunk of their company.

    jue
     
    Jürgen Exner, Sep 20, 2009
  10. Glad to hear that.

    jue
     
    Jürgen Exner, Sep 20, 2009
  11. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Ray Fischer Guest

    He didn't.

    Obviously.
    We don't need to see into the future anymore, rightard.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 20, 2009
  12. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    I ask a straight forward question to a person *who* seems to have better
    information than I and I can't get an answer.
     
    mikey4, Sep 21, 2009
  13. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest


    I am a life long Tory (republican to you) NOT a liberal and certainly
    not a socialist!

    I have Military experience. Including ME and counter terrorist.

    As for seeing into the future things have happened as predicted over the
    last 8 years. I think I have a track record of being 80-90% correct. But
    then it is not rocket science.

    The Bush administration made all the mistakes predicted... that is why
    it lost in Iraq and can not win in Afghanistan. Though it took 6 years
    for the US military to admit this publicly
     
    Chris H, Sep 21, 2009
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    DRS Guest

    In Britain we have two major political parties: Labour, who Americans would
    call socialists, and the Tories, who Americans would call socialists...
     
    DRS, Sep 21, 2009
  15. :)

    s/Americans/FOX News/ and I would agree.

    After all, educated Americans do exist, too.

    jue
     
    Jürgen Exner, Sep 21, 2009
  16. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    So once again I will ask, what would you, Chris, suggest?
     
    mikey4, Sep 22, 2009
  17. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    I agree with all the points. I said to a friend, Iraq and Afghanistan are
    the Tar Babies (see Uncle Remus books) and like Briar Bear we are stuck to
    them. These two wars, conflicts or whatever you want to call them are now
    Obama's and I doubt you will see a very rapid and total withdrawal from
    either country.
     
    mikey4, Sep 22, 2009
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    tony cooper Guest

    The "tar baby" analogy is on-target, but it was Brer Rabbit who got
    stuck.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 22, 2009
  19. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    Your right Tony. Its been a long time since my mom read those stories. My
    little brother had the Uncle Remus book(s) that we grew up with rebound,
    they are a real treasure.
     
    mikey4, Sep 22, 2009
  20. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    tony cooper Guest

    You count 4,345 American soldiers as "nothing"?
     
    tony cooper, Sep 22, 2009
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