[QUOTE]\nThis is patently incorrect. Read up on it. We have steadfastly refused to\ninterfere in Afghani politics over the years. Certainly the USSR has done\nmuch more damage there than have we.[/QUOTE]\n\nNo, the Afghanis have done all the harm by wanting people to come save them\nfrom themselves. Nobody has ever stopped them from just saying "no". It's\nwhat responsible adults do. Those that love to manipulate the world by\nchoosing to "play victim" do what Afghanis and all the other middle-east\ncultures do.\n\nThis conversation alone shows how far reaching their manipulative "poor me,\nI'm a victim" tactics go. There's much more interesting things to discuss\nin the world than this. Your nightly news has been hijacked by the\nmiddle-east cultures all your lives just because of how well the "poor me,\nI'm a victim" act works to manipulate you. Just as it is now hijacking this\nnewsgroup with this off-topic bullshit. They have built all their religions\nand cultures on that very principle of self-victimization. That's all it\nis, that's all they are. That simple, that stupid, that effective, and you\nall fall for it all of your sorry ignorant manipulated lives.\n\nSolution: You completely ignore anyone who is using self-victimization\ntactics to manipulate you. They don't even exist until they find healthy\nand adult ways to get your attention again. If they get desperate and want\nto go so far with their self-victimization as to kill themselves? FINE! Go\nfor it! Darwinism at its finest! I love it! Nothing better! Problem solved\non its own! Their genetic defects finally gone from the earth! Our news\nwould be so much better for it in the future.\n\nJust thought I'd enlighten all of you before going back to something\nphotography related.