"Softbox" flash attachment - anybody tried this?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Peabody, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. Peabody

    Peabody Guest

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/150720657330

    So it's a little softbox thingy that you mount on your flash. Just
    seems like it might come in handy to soften things a bit but still
    not throw light everywhere. I just wondered if anyone here had
    tried such a thing and whether it was useful. At $9 delivered, not
    a big risk, I guess.

    Actually, I was thinking of using it for backdrop lighting if it
    doesn't cost too many stops.
     
    Peabody, Feb 29, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    It doesn't look any better or worse than the plastic diffusers (Gary
    Fong or Sto-Fen) that fit over a flash. The disadvantage is that it
    looks bulkier to carry in the camera bag than a Fong or Sto-Fen. OK
    if you never take it with you.

    It ships from China, though. I don't really trust China shipments to
    get here, but I don't know if it's really a problem.

    As you say, not a big risk to try.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 29, 2012
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  3. Peabody

    Peabody Guest

    Alan Browne says...

    I know it shows it mounted on the camera, but I would be
    using the flash off-camera, and it would be in addition to
    my main flash and 43" shoot-through umbrella for studio
    work.

    If I used it on-the-go, I think I would just hold it in my
    left hand, with arm outstretched, and trigger the camera
    right-handed. And I would use a radio trigger for that.

    Well I think I'll spring for the $9 and see how it works
    out.
     
    Peabody, Feb 29, 2012
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    Troy Piggins Guest

    It's a bigger surface area than the Fong or Stofen, so it should give
    softer light if put close to the subject. No? The Fong and Stofen are
    meant for bounce flash. No good if you don't have anything to bounce
    off. This softbox thingy is meant for direct shooting.
     
    Troy Piggins, Feb 29, 2012
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  5. Peabody

    tony cooper Guest

    The ad says delivery between March 16 and March 29. It could be a
    month from now.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 29, 2012
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  6. Peabody

    Guest Guest

    actually, that's ebay's estimate. had you read the ad itself, you'd see
    they say about 2-3 weeks to the usa, just like i said it would.
     
    Guest, Feb 29, 2012
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    Bruce Guest



    It is worth a try for $9. You can pay a lot more for something based
    on similar principles from a well-known brand:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/140549038629

    Expect to lose 1.5 to 2 stops. But definitely worth a try.
     
    Bruce, Feb 29, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    It also says: "But sometimes maybe take up to 4-6 weeks due to strict
    Custom Inspection"
     
    tony cooper, Feb 29, 2012
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  9. Peabody

    Guest Guest

    talking out your ass again, i see. you've never bought a single ebay
    item from china. you just want to argue for the sake of argument.

    i've bought numerous items from china. it will show up in 2-3 weeks.
     
    Guest, Feb 29, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    I got my wireless remote from Phottix in China in 10 days. I have their
    Phottix Plato remote and it has worked as advertised without issue. $50
    was far better than the $$$ asking price to get the same function from
    Nikon. Though it must be said that today there are similar Chinese
    imports available from B&H for less than the $50.
    As for Chinese eBay purchases I have no experience and have no comment
    on those delivery times.

    BTW: They (Phottix) have some very interesting and useful goodies.
    < http://www.phottixstore.com/ >
     
    Savageduck, Feb 29, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    No, I haven't. I said in my post that I don't really trust China
    shipments. For that matter, I don't really trust the vendors.
    No argument. I'm just quoting what it says in the ad.
    Yeah, right.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 29, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    only out of ignorance.
    you're blindly quoting. meanwhile, i'm telling you what *actually*
    happens when someone buys stuff from chinese sellers.
    are you saying i'm lying?
     
    Guest, Feb 29, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    It could be ignorance, or it could be prudence. I might be able to
    save a buck or two if I purchased something on eBay from a vendor
    shipping from China, but by spending a little more and buying from a
    reputable vendor like B&H or Adorama I get the product faster and have
    less risk. You may have more need to save a buck or two.
    No, I read the ad. eBay does not have a braille version that I know
    of.
    This is like your airplane market share survey, isn't it? You bought
    something from China, it arrived in less than four weeks, and you then
    extrapolate that into everyone's experience with all orders.
    Here's how a responsible person describes his experiences:

    http://reviews.ebay.com/The-wisdom-...om-China-Pros-amp-Cons?ugid=10000000020373358
    Try the shoe on.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 29, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    it's ignorance. you've never done it.
    except that the difference is usually quite a bit more than a buck or
    two. it's often $20-30 and sometimes even much more than that. the
    savings adds up very quickly.
    you may have read the ad, but you are deliberately taking it out of
    context solely to argue.
    there you go twisting things again.
    that's just one person's opinion, one who you intentionally cherry
    picked, and one who is highly biased and not particularly savvy about
    buying stuff either. he can't tell where an item is coming from or how
    to track purchases? both are very easy to do. looking at his selling
    history, the stuff he sells is no doubt available for a lot less from
    china so it's no surprise he is critical of chinese sellers. it's his
    competition.
    you're an asshole.
     
    Guest, Feb 29, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    If I'm buying an item where one vendor sells it for $20 to $30 less
    than another vendor, the total price has to be high enough that I
    would want assurance of the success of the transaction. That means I
    would deal with a reputable vendor with a known address in case a
    return would be required. It's worth the extra money to me.
    Out of context? The ad is the context. All the context is there. I
    quoted the figures from the ad.

    And exactly how is that any different than your opinion? You are one
    person.
    Where do you get that? The article is, in my opinion, very balanced.
    Much more so than what you posted.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 29, 2012
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    Guest Guest

    you're just looking for the biggest number, which doesn't mean what you
    think it means. you are deliberately ignoring the figures that say 7-10
    days for usa shipments, which is what it will be.

    of course, there's always the off chance that the plane could crash and
    he might never get it at all, but that could happen to *any* purchase,
    from anywhere.
     
    Guest, Feb 29, 2012
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    Bruce Guest


    Many if not most Chinese eBay sellers offer a two tier service. China
    Post is usually free because it is heavily subsidised and costs the
    sellers mere pennies. However, it tends to take up to three weeks to
    Europe, usually a few days less to the USA.

    Many sellers offer EMS at additional cost. EMS is an international
    express mail system with signatories including the USA and most
    developed countries, plus the Chinese. Once again, the Chinese
    version is subsidised and therefore costs a lot less than the USPS EMS
    service, while the UK's Parcelforce is comparatively very expensive.

    EMS from Chine typically takes 5-8 days but as with any international
    mail service can suffer from customs delays which add to that.
     
    Bruce, Feb 29, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:39:54 -0600, Peabody
    :
    : >http://www.ebay.com/itm/150720657330
    : >
    : >So it's a little softbox thingy that you mount on your flash. Just
    : >seems like it might come in handy to soften things a bit but still
    : >not throw light everywhere. I just wondered if anyone here had
    : >tried such a thing and whether it was useful. At $9 delivered, not
    : >a big risk, I guess.
    : >
    : >Actually, I was thinking of using it for backdrop lighting if it
    : >doesn't cost too many stops.
    :
    : It doesn't look any better or worse than the plastic diffusers (Gary
    : Fong or Sto-Fen) that fit over a flash. The disadvantage is that it
    : looks bulkier to carry in the camera bag than a Fong or Sto-Fen. OK
    : if you never take it with you.

    It looks like cloth with a wire frame. Maybe it collapses.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Mar 1, 2012
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    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Mar 3, 2012
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  20. Peabody

    Guest Guest

    as i said, it's often much more than a buck or two but yes, it adds up.
    because it's all he could find to contradict me.
    same here, although i would say reliable rather than fast. 2-3 weeks is
    not exactly fast, however, it always shows up.

    to blindly dismiss all chinese sellers as untrustworthy without ever
    having tried it at best, incredibly stupid. however, i think it's
    pretty obvious what the real reason is.
     
    Guest, Mar 3, 2012
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