Sony Alpha 100

Discussion in 'Sony' started by Steve B, May 7, 2007.

  1. Steve B

    Steve B Guest

    Anyone try one yet? Comments?

    Steve
     
    Steve B, May 7, 2007
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  2. I took the canon 400D, but the in-built image stablising feature has got to
    make the sony alpha a very worthy choice.
     
    the_niner_nation, May 8, 2007
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  3. Steve B

    Alan Browne Guest

    Wait for the fall, winter. New high end amateur DSLR and a pro version
    to follow. If Sony get that right, then it's a system to get into.

    Cheers,
    Alan

    PS: I despise the fact that the A100 has only one wheel for
    aperture/exposure. So I won't buy one.
     
    Alan Browne, May 8, 2007
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  4. Steve B

    Steve B Guest

    I bought the DSC H1 because I needed a camera in a hurry. Right after that,
    they came out with the H2, which had more mp and a Zeiss lens.

    Do they do that on purpose? I woulda bought a H2.

    Steve
     
    Steve B, May 8, 2007
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  5. The reason why I didn't go with the alpha is because i really HATE sony as a
    company..they just frustrate me as a consumer, like their own propierty
    media etc..i know the alpha isn't affected by properiety media as such but
    knowing my luck, if i had got an alpha, then you can bet sony would have
    discontinued them and sold them off 80% less...I just hate the way they
    treat their consumers.
     
    the_niner_nation, May 8, 2007
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  6. Steve B

    Alan Browne Guest

    The moment you plunk down your hard earned cash your camera (car,
    television ...) is obsolete.
     
    Alan Browne, May 8, 2007
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  7. Steve B

    Alan Browne Guest

    Sony was impressive back in the 80's (Walkman) and have since lost their
    way.

    One sign of this is that they actually have a CD player where you can
    litterally drop your CD's into it and it will make sure they end up
    right side down and on the spindle. Idiot proofed for lazy people.

    What kind of waste of marketing and R&D capital is that?

    Another sign is that Sony corporate are screaming mad over iPod. How
    did an American co. do that? This is Japanese domain. This is Sony
    domain. ... nope, not this time.

    As for DSLRs they seem very determined to cut into the market. They
    have already become #3. Admitedly that is distant behind Canon and
    Nikon, but they will bite into that as well.

    For those of us who have (over the years) accumulated the better Minolta
    lenses, Sony's acquisition of the Minolta line is encouraging. We can
    only hope that they get it. (The full frame CZ lenses are a great
    sign). They retained (in the Alpha) the CF card size, not forcing
    idiocy like the Memory stick on anyone. (That may be because the A100
    is a revised Maxxum 5D at heart and already had the CF provision; but I
    like to think it was to please those Minolta users who already have CF
    cards).

    For those of us who grok cameras like the near perfect Maxxum 9, we can
    only hope that Sony don't cut any corners on the "pro" model coming out
    in early 2008. If it is essentailly a Maxxum 9 with a competent digital
    heart, it will be a great camera.

    For those of us who spotted the huge prism on the new Sony pro model we
    can only hope that it indicates both a great viewfinder (Maxxum 9) and a
    large sensor (1.0 or 1.3x).

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, May 8, 2007
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    thebokehking Guest

    BIG SNIP
    Hi Alan:

    Since when did Sony start releasing full frame Carl Zeiss lenses? Are
    they autofocus? Will they be similar lenses to those in the Contax N
    lens line but with the Minolta A mount instead? I hope the lenses
    aren't as large as some of the N lenses as they were so large as to
    not only intimidate the subject but the photographer as well (I
    particularly remember the 17-35/2.8N lens being rather humoungous).

    P.S.- Despite its supposedly crappy build, web results from the 16-80
    CZ (APS-C format) zoom have got to be some of the best optics bar
    none. I am disappointed with the Leica 14-50 (poor corner (and
    overall?) resolution compared to the 25mm/1.4 Leica and other lenses
    it was tested against - saw a test in Amateur Photography or one of
    the other Brittish publications) and the Leica 25mm had some bright
    ringing (bokeh) in oof highlights (don't have the link off-hand). I
    love the four thirds system in concept (some of the Olympus zooms
    examples I've seen are great for sharpness and bokeh) but due to the
    smaller sensor and all those MP there is too much noise in the images,
    especially at I.S.O.s 800 & 1600 and when you stop down the lens too
    much (f/13?) you start to run into diffraction problems of image
    degradation. If Monytax (Minolta/Sony/Contax/Zeiss) releases a 30-35mm
    APS-C or full frame 50mmm CZ I hope they get the normal lens (bokeh,
    micro contrast, etc.) right. Even though Minolta made a G series 35mm/
    1.4 I am betting there would be some market for a CZ "normal" digital
    lens whichever the format.

    TIA
     
    thebokehking, May 10, 2007
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  9. Steve B

    Steve B Guest

    Not sure what full frame means, but the DSCH2 has a Zeiss lens, as does the
    Alpha.

    When I was 18, I bought all the photo equipment of a local hypnotist who had
    died. I got it from his widow (friend of our family) for $275. She just
    wanted the stuff out of his house, I believe because he shot nudes. I told
    her I was interested in photography, and her only comment was, "Well, just
    don't take pictures of naked women." I promised not to.

    In there was a Beseler 45MCRX motorized enlarger with about six Zeiss
    lenses. TWO tons of everything else from chemicals to papers to everything
    imaginable in a dark room. Thermometers, trays, SS film cans, EVERYTHING,
    most with two of each.

    I wish I had kept it all and continued with black and white. It's s fun,
    it's cheap. (relatively) I had a lot of fun with that equipment and
    learned a lot. Now, though, you can do the same thing with a computer.

    Steve
     
    Steve B, May 10, 2007
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    Joel Guest

    Full Frame means no cropping factor or 1:1 instead of 1.6X or 1.3X. I am
    pretty sure that is what FF means
     
    Joel, May 10, 2007
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  11. Steve B

    Steve B Guest

    Full Frame means no cropping factor or 1:1 instead of 1.6X or 1.3X. I am
    pretty sure that is what FF means

    And I am certain I don't have a clue of even what that means. So, I'll take
    your word for this one. ;-)

    Steve
     
    Steve B, May 10, 2007
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    Joel Guest

    Example the difference between FF vs 2X crop factor (most current cemaras
    either 1.3X or 1.6x, but I use 2X to make it easier to see).

    - 50mm lens with Full Frame camera = 50mm

    - 50mm lens with 2X Crop Fractor camera = 50mm x 2x = 100mm

    Or if you use a 18-50mm lens on Canon 20D, 30D etc. with 1.6X it will
    become 28.8mm - 80mm
     
    Joel, May 10, 2007
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Planar T* 1,4/85 ZA (Full frame)

    Sonnar T* 1,8/135 ZA (full frame)

    Vario-Sonnar T* 3,5-4,5/16-80 ZA (cropped)
    (Look for David Kilpatrick's review. Very honest wrt to the zoom. eg:
    not one of Zeiss' better efforts).
     
    Alan Browne, May 13, 2007
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  14. Steve B

    thebokehking Guest

    Thanks but I don't get it. Are the two new full frame Zeiss primes for
    the Sony digital camera or are they for the Nikon or Pentax (screw or
    KAF mount?) or some other full frame film camera (try saying that ten
    times fast ;-))?

    Do you have a link? I only saw his 16-80CZ review for the Sont DSLR,
    not any Leica zoom review done by him... Thanks.

    Very honest wrt to the zoom. eg:
    I thought the 14-50 was a Leica effort - do you mean Zeiss designed
    the lens or did you make a typo/brain gaff on the manufacturer?

    SNIP
     
    thebokehking, May 14, 2007
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  15. Steve B

    Alan Browne Guest

    I'm not sure for the other OEM's, but the lenses above are for Minolta
    A-mount (Konica-Minolta, Sony Alpha).

    The first two lenses should work fine on film Maxxum (Minolta Maxxum,
    Dynax, Alpha) bodies. The Vario-Sonnar will produce very strong
    vigenetting to a near circle.
    http://www.photoclubalpha.com/1680/1680.html

    (Sorry: I meant the CZ 16-80).
    I'm talkin 'bout the CZ 16-80. Sorry to have crossed the wires.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, May 15, 2007
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  16. Steve B

    Gomar Guest

    are you referring to the Memory Stick?
    If so, please note that Olympus and Fuji use xD, and their
    users aint complaining.
     
    Gomar, May 15, 2007
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    ray Guest

    I've thought for many years that Sony was way overrated. Way too much to
    pay for too little performance - basically paying for the name. The only
    reason I'd think about the alpha is that it is a Minolta.
     
    ray, May 15, 2007
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