Sony Alpha DSLR A100 full dpreview

Discussion in 'Sony' started by deryck lant, Aug 1, 2006.

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    deryck lant Guest

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra100/

    In 2007 expect entry level and higher spec models. Sony have announced
    their intention
    to be number 2 in the DSLR market. Will be interesting when the pro
    models emerge.

    Deryck
     
    deryck lant, Aug 1, 2006
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    Kinon O'Cann Guest

    Looks like a very nice cam! The dynamic range compression/optimization
    feature is very interesting.
     
    Kinon O'Cann, Aug 1, 2006
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    SkipM Guest

    Well, since the Sony is probably not much more than a conscripted Minolta,
    Nikon may have had a clue as to what was coming down the pike, despite the
    impending name change.
     
    SkipM, Aug 1, 2006
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  4. Sony have announced
    In quality, in sold device count or in Dollars ?

    Who would be number one ?

    -Michael
     
    Michael Schnell, Aug 1, 2006
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    deryck lant Guest

    The message <1nJzg.1$>
    Certainly very good value. The competition offered to Canon and Nikon
    will benefit all of us - the upcoming Nikon D80 being the first fruit of this.

    The promised Zeiss lenses will make the future Sony pro models interesting
    to many.

    Deryck
     
    deryck lant, Aug 1, 2006
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    Kinon O'Cann Guest

    Hmmm..... Let me guess...

    Canon?
     
    Kinon O'Cann, Aug 1, 2006
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    deryck lant Guest

    The message <eao8mf$4vf$00$-online.com>
    1. An interesting question.

    2. I'm sure marketing led Canon will claim to be number one.

    Deryck
     
    deryck lant, Aug 1, 2006
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  8. They're dreaming. In the real world, the fight is with Pentax for the far
    distant third position behind Nikon and Canon. The pro models might give
    them the chance in that fight. Maybe.

    David J. Littleboy
    Tokyo, Japan
     
    David J. Littleboy, Aug 2, 2006
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    ASAAR Guest

    How so? Wouldn't Nikon have started designing the D80 at least
    two years ago, before Sony's plans were made known? Unless Nikon
    has some well placed industrial spies, which I think unlikely. :)
     
    ASAAR, Aug 2, 2006
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    ASAAR Guest

    That's a possibility, but my point being that the D80 wouldn't be
    the fruit of Sony's acquisition of the Minolta line. Minolta's
    plans, even if known by Nikon, might have changed the direction of
    Nikon's plans or played a part in spurring the development of some
    products. But if the new Sony has an influence on Nikon's roadmap,
    it should be with products arriving after the D80.

    BTW, it's not clear what you meant by Nikon having a clue as to
    what was coming down the pike. Were you referring to Minolta's
    product development, or that they would let Sony take over the
    camera part of their business? My response assumes the former,
    because I doubt that even Sony or Minolta would have known for sure
    two years ago how the two companies' relationships would change.
     
    ASAAR, Aug 2, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    The new Pentax 10MP better be at least as good as the A100 though.
     
    Pete D, Aug 2, 2006
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    SMS Guest

    Many people, who would never buy a pro model, still look at the
    availability of an upgrade path as on criteria when making a decision.

    Sony probably does have the marketing and distribution to displace
    Pentax as number three.

    Who knows? Maybe Sony will flood the market with low-cost SLRs and pass
    Nikon for the number two spot in terms of unit sales. Look at point and
    shoot cameras, where Kodak still leads Canon (in the U.S.). Sony was
    displaced by Canon for the number two spot in 2005, but Sony lead Canon
    in 2004. Kodak floods the market with low-cost, low-end point and shoot
    cameras, so they can claim the highest unit sales, but with a very low ASP.
     
    SMS, Aug 2, 2006
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    SkipM Guest

    I'm guessing that the product turnaround is more on the order of a year or
    so, rather than months. So, I'd be willing to bet that the camera was in
    development somewhat before Sony and Konica were in negotiations. Maybe
    even before Konica took Minolta over...

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    SkipM, Aug 2, 2006
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    SkipM Guest

    I was indeed referring to Minolta's product development, independent of any
    takeover by Sony. Sony's acquisition would have been incidental, at that
    point, to the actual camera that was produced, only influencing the name on
    the prism.
     
    SkipM, Aug 2, 2006
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    SimonLW Guest

    Unless Nikon develops their own sensors or finds another supplier, it would
    seem that Sony could hold back sensor sales to Nikon and Pentax long enough
    get their SLR to the marketplace first to give them that advantage. It will
    be interesting to see how this relationship plays out.

    With Sony, and soon Nikon and Pentax with 10mp sub $1k (US) DSLRs in the
    marketplace I'm very interested in Canon's next move. I think the image
    quality is very good from my 6mp Rebel, I long for better resolution when
    doing some larger prints.
    -S
     
    SimonLW, Aug 2, 2006
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    Bill Funk Guest

    I would imagine that Nikon, being aware that they are reliant on Sony
    for their sensors in their DSLRs, would have taken that into account
    when contracting with Sony for those sensors. I would further imagine
    that those contracts contain clauses that allow Nikon access to new
    sensors as they become available, and Sony is required to supply them
    as they become available. Or something to that effect.
    I replaced my DRebel with a 30D; not so much for the extra 2mp, but
    for the instant-on and the larger LCD. For me, 8mp is enough for now.
    But I do wonder what Canon will do, given their penchant for low
    noise, which leads to lower pixel count than other DSLR makers offer.
     
    Bill Funk, Aug 2, 2006
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    ASAAR Guest

    I think that Nikon does have some of their own sensors, but if
    they need another supplier or partner, I'd urge them to make a deal
    with Fuji. I believe that they were partners, more or less many
    years ago, at least with videocams.


    Canon might say that they already have solutions for you. You
    just want to wait for one that costs less. :)
     
    ASAAR, Aug 3, 2006
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    Bill Guest

    If I read you right - Sony and KM didn't do this without some
    forethought. Sony knew long before we did that they were getting into
    the DSLR market. It's quite conceivable they had been developing the
    A100 for weeks or maybe months before we heard about KM dumping their
    camera division into Sonys lap.

    Same goes for Nikons new model - they had been developing it for months
    and I presume they moved up the announcement early to compete against
    Sony.
     
    Bill, Aug 3, 2006
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    John Turco Guest


    Hello, Deryck:

    A steaming "number 2" position seems about Sony's speed, if you catch my
    meaning. <g>

    All kidding aside, I've never associated the company with especially
    high-quality products, and I'm not limiting such criticism to digital
    cameras, themselves. I think Panasonic has been the best, overall
    consumer electronics manufacturer, these past few decades.

    Just my personal opinions, of course. :-J


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Aug 4, 2006
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