Sony DSR250?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by jowillie, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. jowillie

    jowillie Guest

    Anyone using the Sony DSR250? How does it compare with...say..the
    Panasonic DVX100B, other than form factor? I''m looking for the most
    Pro quality for the dollar.
    Thanks
     
    jowillie, Sep 20, 2008
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    blackburst Guest

    I have one. The batteries last forever and the tapes can do up to 2
    1/2 hours at DVCAM. There are several audio options typical of
    shoulder-mount cameras. You can easily mount lights and wireless
    receivers on it.

    One big downside: The lens does not focus like a traditional ENG
    camera lens. It has defeatable autofocus, but it manual focus does not
    respond as one might expect. Hard to describe.
     
    blackburst, Sep 21, 2008
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  3. Its likely "fly-by-wire" where turning the encoding ring
    tells the internal focus motor to move the glass.
    vs. a traditional lens where turning the ring actually,
    physically moves the glass in a threaded cylinder.
     
    Richard Crowley, Sep 23, 2008
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    blackburst Guest

    Yeah that's probably it. It's a good camera for the price, but it
    annoys me not to be able to focus crisply.
     
    blackburst, Sep 23, 2008
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    Bob A Guest

    Yeah that's probably it. It's a good camera for the price, but it
    I have 2 of them along with 2 of the earlier DSR 200 and a DSR 300. It
    is a very good cam, It is servo focus as are the VX2K, PD150s and
    PD170s, undoubtedly the most popular cams on the planet by a huge
    margin, Don't have a clue why you can't "focus crisply" while it is
    not a complaint of any other owner that has had the camera a week or
    more. If you can't, just leave it in autofocus and it will relieve you
    of the burden and do an excellent job for you.
     
    Bob A, Sep 24, 2008
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    blackburst Guest

    2-part answer:

    First, I did a parade, hand-held, on autofocus. The resultant tape was
    very out of focus in spots.

    Second, when I try to manual focus, I have trouble getting it to
    settle on the "sweet spot." Of course, the focus of my own eyes is not
    as good as it used to be, so what I ascribe to the 250 may in fact, be
    better ascribed to my own failing vision.

    It sucks, by the way, to work in TV and have progressive vision
    problems. When I direct/TD, I have problems focusing between the
    source monitors and the switcher. When I do audio, it is hard to keep
    the whole board in focus. When I do Master, it is hard to focus
    between air, the MC switcher and the computer monitor.

    All that having been said, I LOVE having a "big" shoulder mount camera
    that can run continuously for more than 2 hours in DV25/DVCAM, with a
    light and 2 wireless channels. And a flip-up eyepiece, so I can do low
    angle stuff.
     
    blackburst, Sep 24, 2008
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    Bob A Guest

    The auto focus on the modern Sony digital cams is remarkable. The
    speed and accuracy is amazing. A parade is an excellent example of how
    valuable and good the AF is. Assuming you are close to the marchers
    there is no way to get as good results with any form of manual focus.
    The long DoF for video cams helps a lot keeping the adjustments to
    small ones anyway. Of course when the balloon vendor walks 1 foot away
    in front of the cam, the cam does a quick readjustment hunt on him
    then back to the further away action. One thing I have found that
    sometimes confuses AF is shiny sequins on costumes. I would really
    consider using a tripod or at least a monopod to do something as long
    as a parade. Even if you are doing the parade for personal use, not
    commercial, a tripod gets you a little more respect from the other
    spectators Even the staff that walks along the sidelines with their
    group often will at least do the duck walk as they pass in front of
    you when you are on a tripod.
    Another event I do that the AF shines at is modeling shows. The model
    starts her strut about 50 feet from the cam and walks to about 6 feet
    away then back again. So long as you keep her in the center of frame
    the AF is seamless.
    Keep in mind that as the zoom is reduced the DoF increases, so if you
    can stay just a bit wider, the AF does not need to work as hard. When
    you go in closer make sure the prime subject is in the center of the
    frame. If you are doing something creative with the subject off
    center then go to manual focus.
    I do a lot of loooong events and the 250 shines as I can put in a 184
    min DVCam tape in the DV-SP mode and get 4 1/2 hours run time. I tell
    the cam operators to hit 'REC' and do not pause the cam for anything
    until it is time to change tapes. Saves the "Oops, I thought it was in
    record!!"
    I too need 'reading glasses' to see close up and have found that
    getting the weakest strength glasses that allow me to see the LCD OK,
    make the transition from looking at the subject then back at the LCD
    easier.
     
    Bob A, Sep 25, 2008
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    jowillie Guest

    So....the batteries last over 4 hours? Thanks all for you observations
    and experiences. I think I hear you all saying that the quality is
    comprable to other cameras in that price/feature range.
     
    jowillie, Sep 26, 2008
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    blackburst Guest

    I use the Sony BP-GL65s, and they last forever, even with moderate
    zooming. Hey, even powering the IDX light and Lectrosonics wireless
    receiver, it seems to last for hours. I always drag along a spare
    battery, but I don't think I've ever needed it.

    It's a pretty good unit. I'm generally happy with the features,
    quality and workability of the camera.
     
    blackburst, Sep 26, 2008
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