Sony IP5 or IP7 to DVD conversion

Discussion in 'Sony' started by Dr. Bukkake, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. Dr. Bukkake

    Dr. Bukkake Guest

    Hi,

    Does anyone know if you can convert the video from this camera to DVD
    without quality loss ?

    thanx
     
    Dr. Bukkake, Feb 2, 2004
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  2. Dr. Bukkake

    Tony Morgan Guest

    The IP5 and IP7 record in MPEG-2 which is a lossy format of low quality
    compared with DV. Having said that, providing you go straight for the
    MPEG-2 coming off the camcorder to DVD then you'll lose nothing of the
    quality you start with.

    Unfortunately, if you want to do any video editing, your video editor is
    likely to convert it to DV, and then to produce your files for DVD will
    re-convert it back to MPEG-2.

    "Lossy format" means, in practice, that the degradation in quality is
    cumulative. So if your original MPEG-2 file has (for example) a quality
    factor of 0.8 compared with a miniDV camcorder, when you've converted to
    DV, edited, then converted the result back to MPEG-2 to produce your
    DVD, your quality will be 0.8 x 0.8 which results in 0.64 (compared with
    a DV video file. This is just illustrative BTW.
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 2, 2004
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  3. Dr. Bukkake

    Dr. Bukkake Guest

    Hi Toney,

    I am able to buy a BRAND NEW Sony IP5 for 800 euros ( retail price was
    2.300 euros ). I like the style of the camera and the picture quality os
    great. But I want to convert it directly to DVD WITHOUT loss.
    I only want to buy this camera if that is possible otherwise I am gonna
    skip this opportunity.

    But from what I read you're saying it's not possible ?

    What is this link saying ?

    http://134.102.55.200/haupt/SonyIP7_to_MPEG2-PS.htm

    Kind regards,
    Dr B
     
    Dr. Bukkake, Feb 2, 2004
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  4. Dr. Bukkake

    Tony Morgan Guest

    Please *do* read what I said.... here I'll help you:

    "Having said that, providing you go straight for the MPEG-2 coming off
    the camcorder to DVD then you'll lose nothing of the quality you start
    with."

    I might add that if you consider that the video quality of the IP5 is
    great, then you have nothing to worry about - since quality is not an
    issue for you.
    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
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    Tony Morgan, Feb 2, 2004
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  5. Dr. Bukkake

    Dave R Guest

    Classic Tony response.

    Oh and do learn to trim your posts old boy.
     
    Dave R, Feb 3, 2004
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    Funprice Guest

    How much difference is there in quality between dv and the mpeg of IP5
    or IP7?! Say dv is 100, how many points can IP5/7 earn then? (100 is
    not a maximum.)
     
    Funprice, Feb 3, 2004
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  7. Dr. Bukkake

    Tony Morgan Guest

    ROFL.... Plonker...

    And a typical response which says absolutely nothing, and contributes
    absolutely nothing....

    Nothing changes from "Dave R". Ever thought of answering the (any?)
    question, or do you simply like the sound of your own voice with your
    inane and irrelevant responses.
    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 3, 2004
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  8. Dr. Bukkake

    Tony Morgan Guest

    In practice it depends on the particular codec being (or that has been)
    used.

    A figure, in theory, of 77 because the maximum lines resolution of DV is
    520 and lines resolution of DVD is 400, then it should be 400/520 or
    (based on DV or 100).
    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 3, 2004
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  9. Dr. Bukkake

    Dave R Guest

    Often... check google, your memory obviously is failing you. Again.
     
    Dave R, Feb 3, 2004
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  10. Dr. Bukkake

    Dr. Bukkake Guest

    thanx guys for the ehm ' useless responses '
     
    Dr. Bukkake, Feb 3, 2004
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    You asked your question, I gave you an answer.
    Ergo, since you consider it a useless response I won't bother next time.
    Nor, I expect, will anyone else.....
    Welcome to Usenet.
    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 3, 2004
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  12. Dr. Bukkake

    Dr. Bukkake Guest

    heh, I was just talking about the final discussion that was going
    nowhere. All I wanted to know was if its possible to burn the output
    from the IP5 directly to a dvd without quality loss to mpeg 2 format
    that I can burn to a dvd , that answer hasn't been given. I read
    everywhere that it is not possible and the link I provided, I dont
    understand it, so someone might help me. Thanx for your time and sorry
    to have upset you.

    Regards,
    Dr B
     
    Dr. Bukkake, Feb 4, 2004
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    Dave R Guest

    I don't know anything about those cameras, but it at least sounds
    feasible. Given an MPEG-2 source, if you can get that data on to your PC,
    then you should be able to burn it to DVD, providing that it is DVD
    compliant. If it is not compliant and some form of conversion must take
    place, then you will lose quality. Likewise if you cannot capture or copy
    the raw data from the camera.
     
    Dave R, Feb 4, 2004
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    funprice Guest

    I think it cannot be done: the bitrate of the recorded mpeg2 is about
    12 mega bits per second and that's beyond the upper limit acceptable
    for dvd.

    Converting to a lower bitrate is giving quality loss. Correct me if
    I'm wrong.

    It's a same, but MicroMV has it's advantages; you can't have it all,
    it seems to me.

    Bye.
     
    funprice, Feb 15, 2004
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