Sony TRV17e: fire-wire problem - camcorder not recognized

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Roland Schweiger, Sep 8, 2004.

  1. I have a Sony DCR TRV17E and it worked fine on my PC for a long time.
    The PC has a PCI slot ieee1394 card with 3 (large, 6-pin) jacks.
    All of a sudden the camcorder was no longer detected in control panel.
    For a long time i thought of a Microsoft problem with the
    open host controller driver ohci1394.sys
    Now finally i found out the following :

    If i connect the camcorder to a notebook, or to any computer which uses the
    "small" jack (4pin), the camcorder is recognized.
    Connecting it to a standard fire-wire card with the large 6pin jack,
    results that the camcorder is now no longer recognized.

    It now is hard for me to find out if this is a defect of the camcorder. All
    i know is that it worked on normal firewire card.

    At Sony i got no help so far.

    Does anyone have details or know of a good page where
    i can at least find out the exact pin layouts of large and small ieee1394
    jack ?

    .... i am quite frustrated. :-(


    Roland Schweiger
    Roland Schweiger, Sep 8, 2004
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  2. It might be that your 6-pin to 4-pin IEEE 1394 cable is bad and your
    4-pin to 4-pin cable is good.

    That's all that comes to mind for now...

    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 8, 2004
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  3. It might be that your 6-pin to 4-pin IEEE 1394 cable is bad and your
    Tried numorous versions of cables and cards anc computers.
    Seems that any 4-pin to 6-pin cable results in the camcorder not
    beingrecognized, although only 4 pins are actually used.

    I know of no fire-wire PCI cards that have the small 4-pin jack,
    it is only in notebooks or computers with frond fire-wire.

    Seems that i wll have to send the camcorder in for repair to Sony.
    However i phoned with a technician at Sony..... and nobody understands this
    curious problem....


    Roland Schweiger
    Roland Schweiger, Sep 9, 2004
  4. I'm sorry that my idea was redundant :-(

    Yes, it's a curious problem. I have no idea...

    Good luck in getting Sony to recognize & fix it.


    Wait! I just got an idea!

    Have you tried a four-pin to six-pin adapter? I don't mean a cable,
    I mean a short assembly with a 4-pin socket and a 6-pin plug joined
    back-to-back. Plug the 6-pin end into the FireWire card and a 4-pin
    to 4-pin cable into the adapter.

    It would be crazy if that worked, but it's alredy crazy :)

    Gene E. Bloch, Sep 9, 2004
  5. Roland Schweiger

    mysticolor Guest

    I'm having a similar problem.

    I've tried two separate computers, 3 separate firewire cards, several
    firewire cables, a Sony TRV900 and a separate 1394 Firewire harddrive

    My devices are not detected, no matter what I do. I've tried the VIA
    drivers, the gap inconsistency patch, TI drivers.

    Of course, I've done the XP Service pack 2. In fact, it seemed to work okay
    a few months ago on the old XP system.

    With this many different cables, cards and devices, I'm just not believing
    that it's a hardware issue. Sounds like a driver issue, but I'm just not
    getting it.

    Thanks for any help on these issues
    mysticolor, Sep 10, 2004
  6. Roland Schweiger

    mysticolor Guest

    Now, I've completely formatted the harddrive, reinstalled XP and Premiere,
    drivers, etc. OHCI firewire card is detected, but the devices that plug
    into it are not detected.

    The service pack 2 is really servicing me, so to speak. Sony and Microsoft
    need to at least address this, and say that there are fixes on the way.
    Just don't deny that these problems are widespread.
    mysticolor, Sep 18, 2004
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