Sony's new 10 meg $999 DSLR

Discussion in 'Sony' started by RichA, Jun 5, 2006.

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    RichA Guest

    RichA, Jun 5, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    Just an added note, there seems to be no equivalent to the R-1 lens for
    DSLR. There is a 16-80mm Zeiss lens as an option, but it is slower
    the R-1's integrated lens.
    RichA, Jun 5, 2006
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    Scott W Guest

    Since this one has a mirror in the way you can't use the same lens that
    is on the R-1.
    That is one very large advantage that a non-slr camera has, much
    shorter working distance between the lens to the sensor. The same
    holds true for range finder cameras.

    Scott W, Jun 5, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    I didnt know that the R-1s lens was one of those kind that went all the
    way back
    into the camera like some other P&S models. It would have been
    to see what kind of price the R-1 lens would have been apart from the
    Some people figured around $1000 just for the lens because of its zoom
    range, and its speed.
    RichA, Jun 5, 2006
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    Scott W Guest

    But that is the point, you could not just rip out the R-1 lens, put it
    in a new mount, and use it on an existing DSLR.

    Note that Canon even makes use of the shorter working distance on the
    30D, 20D and Rebel cameras and has lenses that will only fit them.

    A telephoto lens does not need the short working distance but when you
    get to a wide angle lens life is much easier (cheaper) if you can get
    the last element close to the sensor/film.

    Scott W, Jun 5, 2006
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    ian Guest

    no sign of the antishake what gives? Thank god they keep compact flash so
    you aren't stuck witht the memory shtick.
    ian, Jun 5, 2006
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    Scott W Guest

    If you look at the features tab you will see that antishake is in fact

    I agree about the compact flash, memory sticks were just a bad idea
    from the start.

    Scott W, Jun 5, 2006
  8. The requested product is no longer available

    Talk about a short product life !!!
    Darrell Larose, Jun 5, 2006
  9. It's on DPReview now, looks good.
    darrell.larose, Jun 6, 2006
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    Rich Guest

    If this is Sony's "entry-level" product, I can only wonder what
    their high-end product will be like.
    Rich, Jun 6, 2006
  11. SNIP
    Have you seen its image results?

    Going for a CCD indicates they are trying to avoid noise issues,
    requiring the larger per pixel fill-factor. The bucket-brigade style
    of reading the chip means that errors will propagate and cumulate,
    thus one edge of the image is worse than the other. Maybe they read in
    multiple blocks which requires more circuitry and more power. Another
    way to prevent the longger read time, is by using faster electronics
    which consume more power.

    Let's see some results first, shall we?

    Bart van der Wolf, Jun 6, 2006
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    acl Guest

    Unless it reads alternate columns off in different directions like the
    D200, resulting in slight patterning to the noise at the edges (really,
    noise only on alternate lines so that the noise forms faint bands at the
    edges of the image in the deep shadows).
    acl, Jun 6, 2006
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    Scott W Guest

    Scott W, Jun 6, 2006
  14. If they used the same sensor as the DSC-R1 then it will likely have
    Not according to DP Review:

    "10 megapixel APS-C CCD
    Interestingly Sony has gone for CCD rather than CMOS with this camera, so
    it's not the same sensor as used in the DSC-R1. We've no official
    confirmation but it seems likely that this is the same 23.6 x 15.8 mm CCD
    used in the Nikon D200. "

    David J Taylor, Jun 6, 2006
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    Scott W Guest

    Interesting, if they can get the same preformace as the D200 it will be
    very good indeed.

    Scott W, Jun 6, 2006
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    Tony Polson Guest

    Here is the preview:

    It looks very good indeed. 10 MP, a much improved Super Steady-Shot
    which puts Konica Minolta's pathetic Anti-Shake system in its place,
    plus an Olympus-style dust removal feature.

    Just wait for all the Konica Minolta enthusiasts who ridiculed the
    Olympus dust removal system crowing about Sony's "new" feature!

    The specifications seem remarkably close to those of the Pentax K10D,
    which will use the same Sony sensor, derived from that in the Nikon

    Another preview:
    Tony Polson, Jun 6, 2006
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    Tony Polson Guest

    Oops, forgot to mention the announcement of two Carl Zeiss lenses for
    the Sony Alpha mount, 85/1.4 and 135/1.8.
    Tony Polson, Jun 6, 2006
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Lots of features missing but that's OK for the price.
    Does this take Nikon lenses?
    Paul Furman, Jun 8, 2006
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    ian Guest

    was that a joke? Its gettting hard to differentiate the pisstakers from the
    genuine knob ends.
    ian, Jun 8, 2006
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    Paul Furman Guest

    I didn't see mirror lockup, burst is slow, not sure how nice the
    viewfinder is, no 3 channel histogram, etc. But it looks great for the
    price. Anti shake & dust removal is sweet.

    I thought I recalled Minolta would take Nikon lenses. I don't know, I
    was asking. I assume it takes old Minolta lenses.
    Paul Furman, Jun 9, 2006
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