sorry if this is a bit off the topic

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Brian, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I belong to a video club which is likely to close due to the lack of
    support. This seems to be happening to clubs in New Zealand. Most of the
    people in the club and joined the club back when people have 3 minute film
    in their cameras. There is a 'still photo' club in my city that is doing
    I was wondering if video clubs in other parts of the world had the same
    problem with many of them closing down?

    There does seem to be more interest in taking still photos than in
    recording movies. Most camera places in the city have a lot of still
    cameras on display and maybe one or two video cameras, especially SLR
    cameras. I know of someone that uses a SLR camera as a video camera. The
    only problem is that you need to change lens and the audio is in mono
    unless you buy an attachment microphone.
    In some recent discussion it seems that the main interest in video is to
    take a video clip, often using a mobile phone, and upload it to YouTube.

    I still have a strong interest in recording and editing videos but I can
    understand that it's easier to take a still photo than to record a video
    and showing a photo to someone is easier by just handing the person a
    photograph rather than needing equipment to playback the video and the time
    it takes to show the video.

    I welcome comments.
    Brian, Oct 17, 2012
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  2. I think it has always been the case that making a good movie or video is a
    lot harder than shooting a good Photo or slideshow. Turning all still
    cameras into "also" video cameras is the equivalent of handing a video
    camera to someone who didn't ask for one. Tho they have the capability, they
    haven't a clue nor the desire to make "movies" that make sense. But stills
    are a lot easier and there are an awful lot of flowers out there waiting for
    your index finger. Ooh, ah.

    I was in a movie club in Sacramento a lifetime ago. In the silent movie
    days, membership climbed. As sound came in, you had to put a lot more effort
    into the project and no one knew what to do with the sound except record
    pretty music to go with their vacation movies. Then sync sound, oy - now
    someone had to talk as well as smile! And forget about scenarios - story
    films - just hard to do.

    But video was the death knell for them, even though it was so much easier -
    technically - to make widescreen, color, sync sound films (videos) of
    anything they wanted. They didn't know how! Motion pictures are the art of
    arts, requiring all sorts of skills, and if you don't know how you don't get
    much out of it and don't enjoy it as much as something simpler like

    So with nothing to show, the club evaporates. It's a shame, because it CAN
    be so much fun and so rewarding, and it can be taught. I have thought of
    starting some sort of class in both the technical aspects of it and how to
    tell a story with a camera, but I am too busy with family and the video
    business to go through all that grief. We have people come in all the time
    to have something edited or to get their video off the camera and onto a
    disc or to convert from tape to disc. They simply don't know what to do with
    the content after they shoot it.

    So if clubs are not the answer then we are at an impasse. Buy Videomaker
    magazine and amaze your family. Read the manual. I dunno what to tell them
    except stay out of my way if I am shooting a wedding.

    Gary Eickmeier
    Gary Eickmeier, Oct 17, 2012
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  3. Brian

    Jack Perry Guest

    In the US, There's all kinds of Video Clubs on the Internet these days

    most of them call themselves PVA's "Professional Video Associations"

    It's true that many are dedicated to making money by shooting wedding

    videos but they are usually also for everyone and there are many guys

    like you who are members. There are also Video Meetups --maybe you'll have

    some luck there as well --though again you may have to do all this

    online----- it's still a great way to network and share ideas.
    Jack Perry, Oct 18, 2012
  4. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Thanks Jack and others.
    The forums, newsgroups etc seem to be replacing the clubs. It also getting
    more difficult to create something for club nights and guess speakers can
    be hard to find. Some clubs ended up as a social gathering at someones
    place for a chat.
    There are still a few of us that help each other. I was recently the sound
    recorder for a movie someone was making as an assignment for a video
    Brian, Oct 19, 2012
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    j Guest

    If the club is large enough, it becomes hard to find a suitable (and
    inexpensive) place to host the meetings. Such was the case with my photo
    club. There seems to be a lot of those around.

    No video clubs here, but there is a film making society. They hold
    script writing classes and other paid events such as an independent film
    festival. Not quite where we are at.
    j, Oct 21, 2012
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