Stepped out pano

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Dudley Hanks, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Dudley Hanks

    D-Mac Guest

    If I send you a 4 feet wide print of it, would that help?

    If you want one use this link to give me your postal address and I'll send
    you one. No charge. If you can read big print, I'll send you instructions on
    how to do it too.

    http://www.auspub.com.au/contact/contact-auspub.html just be aware that
    this form harvests information about your IP address and collects some data
    from your web browser... Just to keep the trolls on the chain.

    Douglas
     
    D-Mac, Jan 6, 2009
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  2. Dudley Hanks

    Jeff R. Guest

    I don't think Doug has gone clear yet.
     
    Jeff R., Jan 6, 2009
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  3. Dudley Hanks

    Jeff R. Guest


    Wow.
    I don't suppose that kind offer would be extended to others?
    I'll pay postage.
     
    Jeff R., Jan 6, 2009
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  4. Dudley Hanks

    Jeff R. Guest

    Whoops!
    My mistake.
    You're referring to the Tangalooma mishmash, not the fictitious Manly
    stepped-out (tm) pano.

    Never mind then.
     
    Jeff R., Jan 6, 2009
    #44
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    It is pretty dreadful. I'm amused by the alternate-step stairs, which do
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 6, 2009
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  6. Dudley Hanks

    Jeff R. Guest

    ....as if you could!
    Well, duhhh.
    When anyone posts an image on these NGs, of course they will be examined and
    reviewed. What the heck do you post them for? It can't be to show off your
    skills.
    ROTFLMAO!
    So the flaws are *intentional*!

    Well - that just about explains everything...
    And that explains the rest.
    It doesn't matter how inaccurate and unfaithful to the original the result
    is, 'cause the poor suckers who buy (!) it don't get to find out that the
    finished image is imaginary - just crude Photoshoppery.


    Every post you make, Doug, digs you deeper into your hole of dishonesty and
    incompetence. Funny thing is, you don't seem to be at all embarrassed at
    your deceit(s).

    Come clean.
    Admit you were wrong.
    Admit your mistakes, highlighted on this page:
    http://www.mendosus.com/photography/doug.html
    and I'll be delighted to take it down. No strings and no charge.

    No apologies, 'though, unless you prove me wrong with a viable Manly linear
    pano.
     
    Jeff R., Jan 6, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    No software solution is going to help you for linear panos.
    Besides, what fun would that be? You'd miss out on getting to hand
    stitch all those shots manually.
     
    Annika1980, Jan 7, 2009
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  8. Dudley Hanks

    Annika1980 Guest

    But you CAN'T do it, D-Mac. You've already proven that.
    My lens choice was dictated by how far away I could get from the
    school. I couldn't go past the parking lot because there is a big
    hill in front of the school and I'd be higher than the roof line.
    As for my "camera holding technique" I used portrait orientation, if
    that's what you mean.

    -----------------------------------
    The first thing I'd abandon is the notion of taking any photographic
    advice from you. I was stitching pics using video captures before
    you'd ever heard of the technique.

    In fact, a few of them are still on the website of The Panorama
    Factory:

    http://www.panoramafactory.net/gallery/landscapes/mead?full=1

    http://www.panoramafactory.net/gallery/landscapes/view?full=1

    http://www.panoramafactory.net/gallery/landscapes/16pano?full=1

    http://www.panoramafactory.net/gallery/landscapes/azaleas?full=1

    Boy, 10 years ..... time flies.
     
    Annika1980, Jan 7, 2009
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  9. Dudley Hanks

    D-Mac Guest

    Boy, 10 years ..... time flies.


    When you get a little older sonny, come see me and I'll show you how it was
    done back in my time.
     
    D-Mac, Jan 7, 2009
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  10. Dudley Hanks

    Jeff R. Guest

    "If someone had told me in 1989 that the BBS
    I started would eventually become Usenet..."

    Douglas
    Feb 29, 2008




    " Come back Al Gore
    All is forgiven."
    Jeff
    Jan 7, 2009
     
    Jeff R., Jan 7, 2009
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  11. Dudley Hanks

    D.Mac Guest

    I never said I'd post a commercially viable image.

    Just that I'd post a demonstration of a stepped out image. Exactly what this
    is. Rest assured mate, the knockers would be the first to download any and
    every image I posted looking for flaws. Leaving them obvious saves them the
    effort.

    Keep in mind too that people who see the finished picture are seldom privy
    to the frames it came from.
     
    D.Mac, Jan 7, 2009
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Thanks for the very kind offer, Douglas. Unfortunately, I can't make out
    images on paper at all, regardless of the contrast. Computer monitors have
    a brighter image, so I can make out a few pics on a good monitor, but they
    tend to come across as BW regardless of how colourful the image is.

    My wife and I will probably get a new desktop in February / March, so I'll
    try viewing the link to your image again, then. With a bright, crisp, brand
    new monitor, I might be able to catch a glimpse here and there.

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Jan 7, 2009
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    I shot a test pano and used both Canon's Photo Stitch program and Adobe
    Elements to stitch it. The results were less than impressive.

    With the Canon prog, even my daughter (grade seven) noticed the stitches
    right away. With Adobe, the result was better, but my wife was able to
    detect the stitches when the image was mildly enlarged.

    I'll try these progs as soon as I get some time.

    Thanks,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Jan 7, 2009
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Not so much "close enough".
    Alright, this is starting to make sense... But, it's going to be a real
    challenge for me. At the best of times, I tend to have problems keeping
    things straight when shooting. It sounds like doing panos will be rather
    unforgiving when I am off a smidge...

    With corner shots, I was thinking of the rotating camera variety. I shot a
    quick test, and I quickly found out that I need to leave a bit more room top
    and bottom than I'm used to.

    See: http://www.photography.dudley-hanks.com/Light-And-Sight/pano1.jpg

    This image is pretty bad. I guessed at the exposure (manual mode), had the
    main subject sitting too high in the frame and had to crop more than I had
    anticipated off the top, so the subject looks pretty strange, and I used
    Canon's Photo Stitch to assemble (lots of stitch lines).

    But, I learned enough to want to give it a second shot.

    Unfortunately, I'm running out of time, so later attempts will have to wait
    until February.

    Thanks for all the tips, Jeff.

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Jan 7, 2009
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    D-Mac Guest

    My photography style is generally aimed at "low contrast" so you might have
    issues seeing most of my photos. How's the new dog going? Any photos yet?

    Douglas
     
    D-Mac, Jan 7, 2009
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    D-Mac Guest

    Very few "stitch" programs will be of help with a stepped out pano. You need
    massive overlaps and an odd style of edge blending. To be frank (why not,
    I'm getting tired of D-Mac ) I tried every stich program I could find and
    gave up on them. I get better results under my old Durst enlarger which I
    upgraded with a digital head. Corel PhotoPaint isn't bad either.

    Douglas
     
    D-Mac, Jan 7, 2009
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    For me to put together a montage like that, manually, would be the ultimate.
    I'd love every second of it. But, the resulting image would be horribly
    high in the contrast department. I'm not sure I know of any subjects that
    would be suitable to both my limited vision and the panorama format.

    But, I'll keep trying till I complete one.

    For the time, being, I think I'll stick to the progs for assembly. Doing so
    will minimize the time I spend in post production and maximize the time I
    get to spend actually shooting.

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Jan 7, 2009
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    I leave on Sunday for San Rafael. I should start working with the dog by
    Tuesday or Wednesday.

    I am debating on which cam to take with me: The XSi, my Fuji 5M pocket cam,
    or one of the Canon P&S cameras. When I trained with Dima, I brought my
    Canon A2 and a number of lenses, flashes, a tripod, cables, etc, but ended
    up only taking a minimal number of pics. (The trainers keep us pretty busy
    with training.)

    Whatever pics I take probably won't get posted until I get back in February,
    though.

    The nurse called for the pre-training medical consultation. She said she
    saw my dog in the hall while walking through the vet building. Said she
    stopped dead in her tracks because he's one of the biggest and best looking
    shepherds GDB has ever placed.

    I can hardly wait...

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Jan 7, 2009
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    Helen Guest



    Best of luck with your new dog Dudley. They are incredible dogs.
    They give their life for others. I have a good feeling that this new
    dog will be loved, and that makes me very happy.
    Helen
     
    Helen, Jan 7, 2009
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    Dudley Hanks Guest



    Best of luck with your new dog Dudley. They are incredible dogs.
    They give their life for others. I have a good feeling that this new
    dog will be loved, and that makes me very happy.
    Helen


    Typically, the trainers are surprised at how quickly my dogs and I form a
    bond. Each dog is different, though, so there is always a chance that a
    given team doesn't work out. Since GDB is discontinuing shepherds (I'll get
    one of the last they're training), my backup dog might not be a shepherd.
    So, I've really got my fingers crossed that this fellow and I can work
    things out...

    Regardless of which dog I eventually take home, though, indeed, he / she
    will receive lots of love.

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Jan 7, 2009
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