Stop! Please Stop!

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Walter Banks, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. Walter Banks

    Walter Banks Guest

    Point well taken (and personally guilty)
    What photo equipment post have you made for me to comment on?

    Walter Banks, Oct 1, 2009
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  2. Walter Banks

    dickr2 Guest

    Maybe political discussions would be more appropriate in
    another newsgroup. I'm more interested in photo equipment.

    dickr2, Oct 1, 2009
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  3. Walter Banks

    dickr2 Guest

    Hi Walter,
    Yes, maybe you'll care to comment. I have a pair of Canon T90s
    (manual focus FD lenses) that served me well for many years.
    Both cameras are dead and can no longer be repaired. I can't
    bear to throw them in the garbage - too many fond memories.
    Back to using a pair of Canon A1s that will still be working
    in my lifetime. I dunno?

    dickr2, Oct 1, 2009
  4. Walter Banks

    Walter Banks Guest

    What died on the T90's? A lot of them only needed the
    lithium battery inside replaced. If they were sitting around
    for long enough that was all that was left keeping
    everything alive. Might be worth taking it apart.

    My father had a Canon A1 that outlasted him.

    Walter Banks, Oct 1, 2009
  5. The A1's need to be serviced "often". While most cameras need to be serviced
    every 10 to 15 years due to the foam in the light seals going, A1's tend to
    have the mirror damper dry out and "wheeze". This is a very expensive repair
    as it usually requires removing the mirror box. :-(

    The two people I know who knew how to repair them by removing one screw on the
    lens mount and inserting a needle oiler have long since moved on to sales,
    one used cars and the other real estate. I wonder if since both markets
    are in the toilet, they may go back to camera repair. :)

    What about the F1 or F1n?

    Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Oct 1, 2009
  6. You and David can start a 35mm film camera newsgroup or yahoo list.

    I'd join it.

    Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Oct 1, 2009
  7. The old "help" in the finder. :)

    Actually most of them have bad shutters. Someone in New Jersey was canabalizing
    other cameras for the parts, but I think he has long since stopped.

    Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Oct 1, 2009
  8. Walter Banks

    dickr2 Guest

    Hi Geoffrey,
    I don't know about servicing often, but I'm familiar with the wheeze or squeak
    found in the A series Canon cameras (A1, AE1, AT1, etc.). I purchased one of
    the A1s a number of years ago from an older fellow who could no longer hold
    the camera steady or focus manually. The camera was in mint condition, but it
    had the infamous "squeak". I sent it off to a repair person who specialized
    in Canon cameras and the "squeak" was repaired for a very reasonable fee. The
    camera was returned to me with a note from the repair guy saying it was a
    pleasure working on such a pristine A1.
    I'm using a pair of A1s that don't "squeak", but I still have a AE1P that
    "squeaks" but takes fine photos. OK, I'm a Canon junkie and I still have a
    Canon FTb, Canon T70, and many, many FD lenses, as well as my beloved, but
    deceased T90s. I'm an old fart who likes manual rewind, manual advance (but the
    motor drive on one of my A1s is fun), and no LCD displays.

    dickr2, Oct 1, 2009
  9. Not true for me. I bought my A-1 on eBay more than 5 years ago. All
    seals are in fine shape, and no evidence of the famous Canon "squeal".
    I'm pretty sure the instructions for curing the "squeal" (for both the
    AE-1 and A-1) are posted online. In any case I've seen them and they're
    not beyond the capabilities of most camera repair DIYers. (I think
    they're somewhere on Rick Oleson's indispensible camera tech site.)

    Yep; here are the instructions:
    David Nebenzahl, Oct 1, 2009
  10. You mean like ... *this one*?

    (Digital, non-35mm folks are interlopers here. Not that will ever stop
    anyone ...)
    David Nebenzahl, Oct 1, 2009
  11. Ouch. That's the hard way. The easy way was to remove one screw on the front.

    I never learned how to do it. I spent my time learning how to fix Nikon
    cameras. :)

    Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Oct 2, 2009
  12. Walter Banks

    Noons Guest

    dickr2 wrote,on my timestamp of 2/10/2009 5:16 AM:
    You see, this is what happens when you let a news group be taken over by trolls,
    under the crap excuse that "it's not getting a lot of posts".
    They alert the others and then the lot moves in. Used to be r.s.g. Now it's
    this one. Same deranged inbred mob, different handles, same ip address ranges.

    Start sending complaints to the ISPs that let this lot in. All of you.
    Instead of complaining here: all it achieves is to encourage them.
    The more folks that complain, the faster some action will be taken. All it
    takes is for one or two of them to get their accounts cancelled and they'll move on.
    Noons, Oct 2, 2009
  13. Walter Banks

    K W Hart Guest

    Young whippersnapper!

    I'm using Canon FX's and many, many FL-mount lenses. You kids have to have
    your meter needle in the viewfinder- too lazy to take the camera away from
    your eye to read the "through the thumb" meter on the top of the camera! And
    you have to have your shutters "electronically controlled", as if springs
    aren't good enough. Springs have been around since just after the wheel, and
    they run a shutter just fine, thank you.

    I bet you even take your film to Walmart for developing instead of mixing
    the chemicals and going into the dark yourself! I'd even make my own film if
    I could find a source for silver nitrate and cow hooves!

    Seriously, glad to hear of someone else using the old Canons. Want to buy a
    Canon brand FD 100-200mm zoom with case?
    K W Hart, Oct 2, 2009
  14. Walter Banks

    Paul Furman Guest

    I just picked up a Nikon EM as a gift for an 11-year-old boy for $40:
    It is auto aperture priority only, so turn the aperture ring & it sets
    the exposure. There is a little exposure compensation button to add 2
    stops for backlit situations and it has bulb mode & M90 mode if the
    battery dies, it'll shoot at 1/90 sec with a spring-loaded shutter cock.
    It's plastic but reasonably sturdy and is very small & light with old
    school styling.

    I wanted the lens which KEH sells for $80, it's a compact Ai-S 50mm
    f/1.8 'pancake' lens only 1-1/8" long (28mm), compared to the 45mm Ai-P
    5/8" (17mm) or the new AF at 1-1/2" (38mm). I have an old beater 28mm
    f/2 which focuses much closer & while a bit scratched, it's a great
    lens. Sort of long at 2-1/2" (64mm) but narrow and shows DOF enough to
    learn that, wide enough to see the effect of wide angle & learn that.

    It's funny how kids like these old designs, I've got a pic of my old
    Canon AE-1 on the web & it gets a regular stream of teenagers commenting
    how cool it looks & is that a good camera to get?

    Paul Furman

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    Paul Furman, Oct 10, 2009
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