Stopped by the police

Discussion in 'Photography' started by tony cooper, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    I was driving through a run-down area of a small town north of Orlando
    today just looking for photographic opportunities when I heard that
    "burp" of a police car siren behind me. I stopped, and the officer
    walked up to the window. She noticed my two cameras - a short lens on
    one and a longer lens on the other - on the seat beside me and asked
    if I what I was doing. I told her I was just looking for something
    interesting to photograph. No more explanation than that.

    She said I was driving too slowly and not paying attention to anyone
    who might be behind me as she was. Then, she said she was interested
    in buying a dslr but had heard about problems buying cameras on the
    internet. I said I'd had good luck buying cameras and equipment from
    Adorama, B&H, and Ritz. She jotted down the names, and told me go
    ahead, but to pay more attention to what was behind me. That was it.

    Nice lady. I hope she gets a good buy.
     
    tony cooper, Apr 6, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    Sounds like a good cop keeping the distracted driver old fart photog
    from running down the citizens, or hurting themselves.

    Yup! I hope she gets a good buy. Those vendors should be straight
    enough for her.
    Who knows, you might have a new shooting pal. ;-)
     
    Savageduck, Apr 6, 2012
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  3. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    C'mon, now. I *was* watching in front of me. The danger of driving
    too slowly is that some impatient person behind me might zoom around
    me and cause an accident.
     
    tony cooper, Apr 6, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    ....or run into you from behind, and get your attention by jarring your neck.

    It is good to see you interacting with a lady working the street. ;-)
     
    Savageduck, Apr 6, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 22:56:34 -0700, Savageduck
    :
    : >On 2012-04-05 22:41:39 -0700, tony cooper <> said:
    : >
    : >> I was driving through a run-down area of a small town north of Orlando
    : >> today just looking for photographic opportunities when I heard that
    : >> "burp" of a police car siren behind me. I stopped, and the officer
    : >> walked up to the window. She noticed my two cameras - a short lens on
    : >> one and a longer lens on the other - on the seat beside me and asked
    : >> if I what I was doing. I told her I was just looking for something
    : >> interesting to photograph. No more explanation than that.
    : >>
    : >> She said I was driving too slowly and not paying attention to anyone
    : >> who might be behind me as she was. Then, she said she was interested
    : >> in buying a dslr but had heard about problems buying cameras on the
    : >> internet. I said I'd had good luck buying cameras and equipment from
    : >> Adorama, B&H, and Ritz. She jotted down the names, and told me go
    : >> ahead, but to pay more attention to what was behind me. That was it.
    : >>
    : >> Nice lady. I hope she gets a good buy.
    : >
    : >Sounds like a good cop keeping the distracted driver old fart photog
    : >from running down the citizens, or hurting themselves.
    :
    : C'mon, now. I *was* watching in front of me. The danger of driving
    : too slowly is that some impatient person behind me might zoom around
    : me and cause an accident.

    I think you're lucky it was Annie Oakley who stopped you, and not George
    Zimmerman.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Apr 6, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    If you had had your "hazard" lights blinking would she have stopped you?
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 6, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    Dunno. I don't know how long she had been following me or if she
    thought I may have been up to no good or just a slow driver. There
    have been a lot of metal thefts around Central Florida, so she may
    have been suspicious when she saw me driving around a run-down area
    with some abandoned buildings and closed stores. People are stealing
    copper from air conditioning units, copper and aluminum drain pipes
    from old buildings, and anything metal that can be sold at a salvage
    yard by the pound.

    I didn't mind being stopped. I was an unknown to her and doing
    something different than normal driving. She looked in the car
    (Toyota RAV4) as she walked up, was polite and friendly, and didn't
    give me any static.


    I
     
    tony cooper, Apr 7, 2012
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  8. So while driving you "cropped" the speed limit?

    You should see a doctor about that!
     
    Charles E. Hardwidge, Apr 8, 2012
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    J Guest

    'Any' altrication with the law is always scary! I was taking pot-shots
    whilst driving thru an oil refinery in Grangemouth (Scotland) and was pulled
    over by security, then the police were called in and I was asked to hand
    over the camera. They acused me of being a terrorist and asked why I was
    taking photos. They looked at my shots and told me to delete them there and
    then. I was told I'd be added to a list of possible suspects for terrorism
    which shook me to my boots to be honest. I tried to make light of it all,
    but it just seemed to make matters worse as they told me not to mock them. I
    narrowly ascaped being locked up in a cell. It seems like photographers and
    the law are always gonna be at odds with one another. I still feel hard done
    by because of that incident.

    J
     
    J, Apr 11, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Of course you know that when you delete your photos that they are easily
    recovered afterwards, right?

    You should have told them where to shove in, taken names and called the
    nearest large city newspaper with a detailed accounting.
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 12, 2012
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    J Guest

    I did think of the newspapers and 'reporting' the incident, but to be
    honest, I was just glad to get out of there at the time as it felt like I
    was truly in danger of being mistaken for a terrorist and locked up for the
    night...'or longer! I used a uility to recover the pics though (as you
    said), but they seemed tainted and only brought back bad memories of that
    day, so I eventually deleted them completley.

    J
     
    J, Apr 12, 2012
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    petern Guest

    That's easy to say. They have been known to make up stories. In that
    situation or one usually wants is to get out of there, fast. Here is a time
    to stand up for your rights, but neither of us knows the entire
    situation.
     
    petern, Apr 13, 2012
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  13. So, one response is to cheerfully delete them, then switch to a clean
    card as soon as you're out of sight. I might do that if I did want the
    photos and didn't want to risk further confrontation.
    Or that, if I'm up for the confrontation, legal expenses, possible time
    held in jail, etc.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Apr 13, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Most cops know when they're dangling it over the edge and back off when
    pushed back.

    (Note: My experience with Massachusetts state "troops" is that they are
    too stupid to know what they're doing is wrong).
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 13, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    "Come on, are you a man or an amoeba?"
    .. John Keaton (Dead Poets Society).
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 13, 2012
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    Dallas Guest

    Sometimes we need to be reminded how nice it is to live in a first
    world country with western values.

    I'm going to Mexico pretty soon and doing my research on driving down
    there I came across dozens of posts like this:

    *****

    As we were driving from the rental place through the Hotel Zone, we
    were stopped by the Mexi police, Let me point out I was not even going
    with the flow of traffic, transit buses were buzzing past me, they were
    all going at least 100 KM/Hr (60 mph) in a 70 Km/Hr (43 mph) zone, one
    car must have been doing 120.

    We pulled over, a policewoman came to the window, I also notice they
    pulled over simultaneously the car behind me and another cop was at
    their window. My friend got the registration ready from the glove box,
    the cop said something and I handed her the registration. She did not
    want it, she wanted to shake my hand and welcome me to Cancun. She ask
    the usual things like where you from, where you staying and going etc.
    She then asked for my license and asked me to step out of the car (away
    from everyone else). when we got to the back of the car, she said that
    the speed limit was 70 km/hr and it changed to 40 km/hr. She never said
    I was speeding, and I was not, even in the 40 zone. She would have to
    keep my license as a guarantee that I will pay a $200 fine at the
    police station, then they will release my license. There was no way I
    was giving up my license in Mexico and I told her that. She then asked
    me to come to the cop car where another cop was sitting in the
    passenger seat, he was something out of a bad B movie, loud and cheezy.
    He was overly friendly, telling me where to visit etc. He said he will
    keep my license as insurance until I pay a $200 fine at the cop shop. I
    said, what if I get stopped down in Playa and I have no license. He
    said that would be a problem. I was getting tired of this show and I
    cut to the chase, asking if I can pay him now. He said most people
    don't have $200 on them and they have no ATM in the car but asked what
    can you pay. He wanted me to go back to the car to see what I can come
    up with. I went back told everyone what was going on and pooled cash
    (we did have over $200 but..) and went back to cop car. I said I only
    have $100. The big cheese asked his partners if that was okay (in
    English) and everyone noddded. I go my license back and they let us go
    on our way. Big shake down, they didn't even check the rental
    paperwork, for all they know the car could have been stolen.

    *****

    It's hard to imagine living in a country where the police are the
    criminals.
     
    Dallas, Apr 16, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    You paid $100 too much. What you do is tell them to bring you to the
    police station to pay the fine. Then they let you go immediately.

    (Same riff happened to my neighbors across the street. He didn't pay a
    cent).
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 17, 2012
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    Dallas Guest

    Ah... the good news is that wasn't me.. yet.

    I'm finding what you say is true, ask to go to the police station to
    pay your fine and they tend to back down. Of course at several hundred
    dollars a day for vacation, maybe wasting 1/2 a day doing this is the
    more expensive way.

    Interestingly, there is a new Mexican law passed that says that a
    tourist gets off with a warning the first three times. Clearly the
    government hopes this is a way to stop the police from putting the bite
    on tourists.

    I plan to have several copies of this law on hand to pass out to the
    vultures.
     
    Dallas, Apr 17, 2012
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