Stumped On Nikon Lens Need

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by DS, Jul 9, 2006.

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    DS Guest

    Fellow Foto Freaks,

    I am shooting action photography, mainly sports, and have found my Nikon
    300mm f/4 Af-S ED-IF to be a great tool. But in some situations I have a
    need for a shorter lens in say the 200mm telephoto range (like the smaller
    fields the young kids play on). All Nikon has without spending $4K on a
    200mm f/2G VR is the 180mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF at about $800. This 180mm lens
    lacks the Silent Wave autofocus (AF-S) and I am concerned about the focusing
    speed for sports needs. Any of you have experience in this area? I'd even
    consider another brand if it would do the job.

    I have looked at the new 70-200 f/2.8 VR lens, but since I shoot through the
    fence so much I question if this is a good choice, especially at $1500
    bucks. My camera, by the way, is a D70s. Thanks in advance for your help.

    DS, Jul 9, 2006
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    Bigguy Guest

    s/h 80-300 2.8D - a good example is around $750 ??

    Bigguy, Jul 9, 2006
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  3. Michael Schnell, Jul 9, 2006
  4. I haven't tried the 180 so I can't comment of focusing speed, but I would
    assume it would be reasonably fast but not as fast as one with AF-S.
    Dave, the 70-200mm VR is a "must have" lens that is very versatile and will
    fill most of your needs beyond sports photography. The price is definitely
    worth it. You get an extremely sharp fast focusing lens that has pleasing
    bokeh. The only drawback is it's a big heavy lens, but is well worth
    carrying since the optics are so pleasing. Oh, and the focusing speed is
    very snappy and accurate. I really enjoy using mine and always carry it
    when I go out with my cameras.

    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Jul 9, 2006
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    DS Guest


    With this lens what focus settings do you find give you the best focusing
    for sports/action? Thanks fpr the info!

    DS, Jul 9, 2006
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    Bigguy Guest

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    Sheldon Guest

    I recently picked up a used 80~200 2.8 AF Nikon lens. Very nice lens, easy
    to handhold and very sharp. No built-in motor, so the focus is a bit slow,
    but fast enough.
    Sheldon, Jul 10, 2006
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    cjcampbell Guest

    It depends. :)

    You might want to pre-focus at certain points that you know where there
    will be action and leave the lens on manual.

    I have had no trouble following basketball players with it on
    auto-focus and VR on (or even the 18-200mm VR, for that matter; it is
    also an AF-S lens). I would like to shoot a cockfight with it but have
    not yet had the opportunity. I figure that would be the greatest
    challenge for the 70-200: bad light, fast action, small sports
    'participants' constantly moving closer and further away, probably a
    plexiglass wall to shoot through. That, to me, would possibly be one of
    the most difficult things to photograph that there is. I suspect the
    lens would handle it quite well.
    cjcampbell, Jul 10, 2006
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    DD Guest

    I used to own the 180mm f/2.8 ED-IF and it was an awesome telephoto lens
    - probably one of the sharpest I've used. However, that said, it isn't a
    fast focussing lens, even when used on a pro-spec body like the F5.

    I have to second the proposal to get the 70-200mm f/2.8 VR. That's the
    best Nikon zoom lens I have ever used. Simply outstanding in all areas.
    DD, Jul 10, 2006
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    Rebecca Ore Guest

    If you know anyone who has the birds, ask them about setting up
    "muffing" and shoot that. Muffing (fighting with either leather
    protectors over the natural spurs or with just the natural spurs) is
    legal in any US state. If you live in a state or nation where
    cockfighting is legal, that's another matter (in a number of states,
    the fighting is a misdeamenor but the betting is a felony).

    Fighting cocks move amazingly fast and in all directions. Even in
    good light, they're a challenge (I didn't have autofocus then,
    Rebecca Ore, Jul 10, 2006
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    DS Guest

    You guys are great! I am trying to see what I can sell to buy the 7-200 VR!

    DS, Jul 10, 2006
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    Bill Helbron Guest

    I have been considering the Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED AF Zoom lens, mainly for
    nature photography. Comments?

    Bill Helbron, Jul 10, 2006
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    cjcampbell Guest

    I am in the Philippines, doing some missionary work, but I do find time
    to take pictures (about 17,000 of them since May of last year).
    Cockfighting is one of the national sports. The big matches are
    broadcast on TV, which does give me a few ideas of how to approach
    photographing a cockfight. As a missionary, I have not wanted to appear
    to countenance gambling in any form, so I figure that most likely I
    will have to visit a cocker and photograph the sparring matches they do
    to train the birds.

    The biggest threat to cockfighting in Southeast Asia nowadays is not
    people who are opposed to it, but bird flu. The transporting of birds
    all over the place and the constant close human contact are seen as
    increasingly dangerous.
    cjcampbell, Jul 11, 2006
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    DD Guest

    I have no experience with that one, sorry. It is a consumer grade lens
    so don't expect the world from it. I seem to recall a rumour that it was
    actually made by Tamron under license from Nikon.
    DD, Jul 11, 2006
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    cjcampbell Guest

    A popular rumor, probably spread by some ignorant camera store clerk.
    Nikon has no lenses made under license by anyone else, yet you hear
    this rumor all the time. You hear the opposite one, too, that some
    Tamron or Sigma lens is actually made by Nikon or Canon. That rumor is
    also hogwash.
    cjcampbell, Jul 15, 2006
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