Stupidest, most overpriced, most poorly executed camera in the lasttwo years

i specifically said mechanical linkage so that there would be no
ambiguity about what was meant by non-afs lenses. i spelled it out
because afs is a nikon specific term, and non-nikon users might not
know what it meant.

afs lenses have a motor in the lens, non-afs lenses do not, and have a
mechanical linkage coupling to the motor in the camera body.

i did not say non-af lenses, and the discussion was also about tracking
autofocus, which means it *had* to be some sort of autofocus lens, not
manual focus.

you are indeed confused and you refuse to admit you are wrong.

 

Which cameras have them?

 

Well, LCD images are stabilized now, but I don't use one enough to
render any kind of verdict as to how good that is.

 

Depends on the version. The professional Steadicam is quite large and
heavy (in one of the Alien movies you see one being used as a weapon
mount) but the "Junior" model and the homebrews weigh under 10 pounds
and aren't really "worn".

They don't use eye-level finders if that's what you mean but the flip
out display on a consumer camcorder works fine--so does the display on
the back of most digital still cameras. The point is that there are
ways to stabilize a camera that don't involve pressing it against your
body.

 

On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:18:53 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg

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Savageduck has a D300s and uses it in a fashion where he almost
certainly will know what it does, even if he doesn't quite know how it
does it.

 

Source code? Hell no, I don't have the source code!
....but I know how to read a manual and put what I have read into
practice. I use the Nikon AF features on my D300S as the situation
dictates. I find AF "C" mode together with 3D-tracking when shooting
action shots at sporting events, air shows, and motor sport events to
make life easier for me. Much easier than panning to pre-planned target
points. especially when some targets are moving at high speed like
these.
< http://db.tt/FgkufATK >
< http://db.tt/MWp7j3tc >

By the same token I have a pretty good general ideal how much of the
technology I use in my life works, but many of those things are no
longer as simple as they once were. When I owned a VW Beetle in 1969, I
could pretty much repair most mechanical problems. Today with my
Mercedes E350 I wouldn't dream of thinking of diagnosing a problem.
(not that I have had any)

 

.... what it does, usually, at least.

Not even the original programmers will know how it behaves in
every situation. There *are* bugs, and not all of them are
known.

-Wolfgang

 

Hi,

How about the new Hasselblad, which is a Sony camera with a few goodies
glued on and the name Hasselbad attached, at an incredibly high price.
As I have said in other contexts, you can put a sign on a cow's forehead
saying, "I am a racehorse", but it is actually still a cow.

Mort Linder

 

Hi,

How about the new Hasselblad, which is a Sony camera with a few goodies
glued on and the name Hasselbad attached, at an incredibly high price.
As I have said in other contexts, you can put a sign on a cow's forehead
saying, "I am a racehorse", but it is actually still a cow.[/QUOTE]

Haven't kept up with Hasselblad, which one is the new one?

 

Haven't kept up with Hasselblad, which one is the new one?[/QUOTE]

This Sony monstrosity. It certainly isn't an H4D-60.
< http://www.hasselblad-lunar.com/ >

 

This Sony monstrosity. It certainly isn't an H4D-60.
< http://www.hasselblad-lunar.com/ >[/QUOTE]

So it's a NEX-7 with an Hasselblad logo? Too bad. :/

 

So it's a NEX-7 with an Hasselblad logo? Too bad. :/
[/QUOTE]
Did you look at the price tag? That is really too bad. The fall of the
mighty.

Mort Linder

 

I dunno. Leica does something similar with Panasonics--not to that
extreme though--and Leica has hardly "fallen".

 

Neither Leica or Hasselblad have issues with their premier lines, just
as some or the exotic and luxury car manufacturers will always have a
waiting list for their cars. So, hardly a fall.

While both Leica and Hasselblad build some fine cameras with their
prime models, when it comes to rebadged they can be hard to swallow.
The Leica/Panasonics are at least not priced at an impossible premium
for the badge. That Hasselblad Lunar is an overpriced piece of
pretentious bling and it deserves to die in the trenches.

 

Did you look at the price tag? That is really too bad. The fall of the
mighty.[/QUOTE]

Indeed, but this kind of rebranding is not uncommon. It's like the Aston
Martin Cygnet, the small hatchback they released back in 2011 just to
conform to some EU emission regulations. The Cygnet was a Toyota IQ with
a new grille and that's pretty much it. It cost three times as much as
the Toyota, in spite of being identical.

The price difference between the Hasselblad and the NEX-7 is even
larger, but Hasselblad insist they have the same margins on the Lunar as
on their other cameras and that they're just using better quality
material. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. Given the name - is
it space safe? Will NASA use it on the moon?

 

What about Hasselblad's claim about the margins on the Lunar not being
higher than their other models (or even other brands, interestingly)?

They stress that it's not a rebranding, that yes, the Lunar contains
components from Sony but it's supposedly

http://tinyurl.com/cz9njlv
"...we're not robbing people by making a huge profit on the camera.
Our profit margin is the same as everyone else's; we're just using
more expensive materials."

Still, ¤5,000 is amazingly expensive. It's what I paid for my D3s when
it was released.

 

The question is whether they are using more expensive materials where it
affects function or durability, or are they just putting a gold shell
around it?

 

The question is whether they are using more expensive materials where it
affects function or durability, or are they just putting a gold shell
around it?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I had that thought too.

In the end, the target group for this is surely Hasselblad owners that
doesn't want a Panasonic in their go-bag, but want to flaunt their
camera brand even when on vacation

 

[Hasselblad rebranded camera]

If that matters to you, you're currently wearing out cameras
the way other people wear out thin socks and cannot buy/carry
a spare planning for your camera's planned demise (or buying
spares costs more than buying the rebranded Hassi).

For all I know they're not even gold-plating their name ...

-Wolfgang