Swedes curb rampant downloading - BBC report

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Tony Polson, Jul 2, 2005.

  1. This is true, and the problem is knowing which are, and which aren't. All I
    ask is that they put the expiration date, and their name and address on all
    the stuff they publish, so it doesn't take several hours of my time finding
    it out. Maybe they could all get together and establish a central clearing
    house for that information? - You know, sort of a club for music publishers,
    where anyone can call at anytime of the day or night, and get information
    and/or permission to use any work for any purpose. I think they'd be
    surprised at how many honest people there are......
     
    William Graham, Jul 2, 2005
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  2. That's happening now. For a very modest amount of money, you can buy the
    equipment to make CD's that are as good as the commercial ones, in the
    privacy of your own basement. Also, you can publish your own books with
    modern computers and printers. The commercial publishers of these items are
    just getting more and more desperate, because they are losing money to the
    amateurs. And I mean legal amateurs.
     
    William Graham, Jul 3, 2005
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  3. Tony Polson

    Jan Böhme Guest

    ....while our Minster of Justice simultaneously states that the law
    isn't intended to chase downloading teenagers, and most law experts
    seem to agree that the law is pretty toothless for most purposes.

    Clear case of sending mixed signals, I daresay.

    Jan Böhme
    Korrekta personuppgifter är att betrakta som journalistik.
    Felaktigheter utgör naturligtvis skönlitteratur.
     
    Jan Böhme, Jul 3, 2005
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  4. This is what I've decided. I buy, beg, borrow, or steal anything that I want
    to play or have my friends play. I rearrange it to suit me or them, and we
    play it to our hearts content. Screw the system. We just can't be bothered
    with their antiquated narrow-minded, impossible to comply with, laws. They
    have already decided we are all thieves, and they go out of their way to
    treat us as such, so why should I disappoint them? When they come up with a
    workable system that any normal human being can use, then I will use it. But
    until then, I will merrily go on my way doing what I have to do in order to
    survive. IOW, as long as they leave the wallet lying on the sidewalk stuffed
    with money, and without any name and address in it, I will just pick it up
    and spend it.
     
    William Graham, Jul 3, 2005
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  5. Yes, and I often wonder how much of our money they counterfeit every year,
    too........
     
    William Graham, Jul 3, 2005
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    Charlie Self Guest

    Life of the creator plus 75 years can make calculations difficult.
     
    Charlie Self, Jul 3, 2005
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  7. I know too many people who make their *living* from writing and from
    music to find that a comfortable position. *Your* survival is never
    in question -- or at least, access to works of art has little impact
    on it. *Their* survival *is*. Musicians and writers make among the
    lowest incomes of anybody (except for a very few "bestsellers" at the
    top).

    So, basically, you're saying you're willing to rip off people who
    barely make a living as it is, for the sake of your convenience. I
    don't find this a particularly admirable position.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Jul 3, 2005
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  8. No. What I am saying is that those people have given me no choice. In the
    first place they have guarded their ability jealously, and prevented me from
    learning what they know legitimately. I know, because I tried to go to their
    schools (where, presumably they had all the music they needed to learn to
    arrange with) But they wouldn't let me in. So, I had to learn their trade
    the hard way. They refused to provide me with the learning tools to learn my
    instrument, so I had to obtain them the hard way also. Now, some 20 years
    later, after I scraped and groveled in order to learn how to play my
    instrument, and to arrange without their damned schools, I am doing it for
    myself, and anyone and everyone who wants it......FOR FREE! And they can all
    go, collectively, to HELL.......
     
    William Graham, Jul 3, 2005
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