SYSTEM ERROR when booting up: PLEASE HELP!

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by EddieHaskell, Feb 7, 2004.

  1. EddieHaskell

    EddieHaskell Guest

    Ok heres the problem..
    I have an HP 8660c (Windows 98se)..I just took out the original hard
    drive ( M:) and installed a Pioneer a106 DVD writer...
    I loaded up the ULEAD software that came in the bundle (no problems so
    far) I did notice that when I clicked on MY COMPUTER then 106 was now
    the E: drive.. I also installed DVD X COPY Platinum (everything still
    fine)..
    I tried using it but it "couldnt find drive".. anyway I noticed that the
    jumper on the original drive was set on CSEL and the Pioneer jumper was
    set on MASTER.. I took out the Pioneer and set it to CSEL and tried
    booting up again..
    Everything was loading fine, my desktop appeared and then the screen
    went blue and I got a WINDOWS SYSTEMS ERROR..
    it read
    "An exception OE has occured at 0028: CiC 2FAA3 in VxD SCSi 1HLP (03) +
    This was called from: 0028: CiC2FA28 in VxD etc,etc,etc...
    What the hell happened and what I can I do to fix it?????????? Please
    HELP!!!!!
    thanks!
    Mark
     
    EddieHaskell, Feb 7, 2004
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  2. EddieHaskell

    EddieHaskell Guest

    will reinstalling Windows again take care of my problem? Please
    advise!!!
     
    EddieHaskell, Feb 7, 2004
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  3. EddieHaskell

    les Guest

    Since I don't know how computer-savvy you are, I'll assume you are a newbie.
    The first thing I noticed that made me concerned is how your main drive
    is mapped as M: ????? Are you using SCSI as well ?

    Start at the beginning and get your system's legs up . I usually hate
    automatic
    features and prefer to set things to known parameters. In that vain, set
    your C: drive
    to MASTER and boot. Leave the DVD out of this for the moment....disconnect
    it
    completely. By the way, unless you have mapped the drive to another letter,
    there
    should be no reason your new drive mapped E: unless you had other IDE
    devices
    also online. I would disconnect the other IDE stuff, if you have any, to
    establish
    if the problem is only on your C: drive or elsewhere. Most computers should
    recognize just the C: master setting and not quibble. If you had a D: drive
    that had
    apps on it and in booting they are missing, again you will see error
    warnings.
    But most folks don't install software like this, so I won't elaborate.

    If you can now boot in the C: master mode, then the system works okay. Next
    you
    can try booting with the new drive attached. Assuming you are still on the
    primary IDE
    cable, set the device on slave. If you want to use the secondary channel,
    set the DVD
    to primary. You may need to verify the BIOS is in auto detect to see this.
    You may
    need to see how the BIOS is accessed in your manual.
    On bootup do you get a system screen showing devices? Some slash screens are
    horrendous in leading you blindly and hiding essential info. Check what the
    boot
    screen shows. All IDE stuff should appear. If it does, but the 98SE shows
    nothing,
    the problem is not in the hardware/BIOS, but in some driver/OS software
    combo.

    See how this goes up to this point.
     
    les, Feb 7, 2004
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  4. EddieHaskell

    Marty Monaco Guest

    I think Eddie meant to say he took out the original "CD-RW" drive (M) NOT
    the "hard drive". My older HP had the CD-RW drive as "M". I may be wrong
    but maybe he can verify this.

    -Marty
     
    Marty Monaco, Feb 7, 2004
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  5. wrote in

    My shot in the dark.

    If you're using CSEL then the boot drive would probably work better
    if it were plugged into the end connector of the IDE cable and the
    optical drive were plugged into the middle connector, assuming both
    of the drives are on the primary IDE cable (that is, the cable in 0
    if the IDE slots are called 0 and 1, or slot 1 if they are called 1
    and 2, on your MB).

    Otherwise try settng the drive jumpers as boot drive = master and
    optical drive = slave.

    Or even plug the two drives into separate IDE cables, with the boot
    drive on the primary IDE and the optical drive on the secondary IDE.
    In this configuration you could jumper both as CS or both as master,
    but be sure to use the end connector on each ribbon.

    HTH,
    Gino
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Feb 7, 2004
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  6. EddieHaskell

    les Guest

    Actually, if you talking about the 40 wire IDE cable, the middle connector
    would by default be the master, and the end Slave. But this engineering
    fopa was bad as a non-terminated cable (the "loose end") will act
    as a mirror and potentially create ghost signals. Therefore the end
    connection concept makes more sense, but someone made those
    cables otherwise. And as luck would have it, CSEL cables are not
    the same as the regular IDE cable, though they look the same.
    There's a signal in one of the conductors that sets it apart (pin 28).
    So do you have a CSEL cable or regular IDE ?
    Just do the manual config and free yourself of the unknowns !!

    Forget the end !! CSEL will look at it as a slave, assuming the cable
    is made to detect this configuration......


    For anyone looking for further data about this CSEL issue, PC Guide has
    articles about this problem.........

    Les
     
    les, Feb 8, 2004
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  7. This is a probalem I was unaware of. I have used CS (CSEL)
    successfully on two computers, but both have UDMA and hence use 80-
    wire cables, which evidently are wired correctly, i.e., master is
    the end connector. Empir ically :)

    As for the OP, since he's using Win 98, maybe his computer is old
    enough to have 40-wire cables (I have no idea when that model number
    was made).

    What happens if you use 80-wire cables on non-UDMA interfaces?

    Gino
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Feb 10, 2004
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