Taking pics with no background

Discussion in 'UK Photography' started by R D S, Sep 6, 2005.

  1. R D S

    R D S Guest

    Hi, your coloured background advice certainly hasn't been dismissed.
    It is up near the top of my list of things to try next,

    Rick
     
    R D S, Sep 7, 2005
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    R D S Guest

    <other advice snipped and duly noted>

    The settings I have at my disposal are......

    EXPOSURE
    Auto Manual: 0.3 EV step, -1.8 ~ +1.8 EV

    WHITE BALANCE
    Auto, Sun, Shade, Fluorescent, Tungsten
    .......................

    What exposure would you set, when you say 1 'stop' would this translate
    directly into the settings above, ie i can set my cam to 0.9 or 1.2.

    Cheers,
    Rick
     
    R D S, Sep 7, 2005
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  3. Rick,

    Sure, 1 stop is 1 ev (I think), but it *is* a digital camera, can't you
    try *all* the settings and see which ones give you the best results?

    Personally I would start at the +1.8 and see what happened there. You
    *are* using a tripod aren't you?

    But really if you are having this much difficulty - then TP's advice
    could be best for you.

    Take the results you are getting so far along with you then the
    professional will understand what you are after.

    Mike
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    Michael J Davis, Sep 7, 2005
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  4. It's best to use soft (relatively large, close & diffused) light sources.
    Two is usually enough for white background product shots. The other
    requirement is a camera that you can control in full manual mode and if it
    has a histogram display this is very useful too. From this set up you can
    get good strong balanced lighting and ensure you're exposing for the object
    and close to blow-out on the background. Finally a quick adjustment in
    Photoshop is the norm to make the whole of the background whiter than white!
    I was doing some shots like this last week, including a pair of ladies
    glasses, see http://www.pbase.com/stanmore/image/48880631&exif=Y . Usually
    it looks best to leave the soft shadows thrown by the object in place but
    Photoshop can easily be used to remove these too
     
    Simon Stanmore, Sep 7, 2005
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  5. R D S

    R D S Guest

    Hi,
    I am doing a bit of trial and error with all the settings but you know how
    battery life is.
    No I dont have a tripod, its on my shopping list.
    Yes I have thought of having them done by a pro, but if I can get good
    enough myself it will be better as I expect to be adding products
    frequently, I will see how it goes over the next couple of days, if not then
    ill se a pro. Anyone in here from the Lancs area?

    Thanks,
    Rick
     
    R D S, Sep 7, 2005
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    R D S Guest

    Your pic is just the effect I am after,
    after trying your methods and the cam set to EV+1 I have achieved the
    following...
    http://www.justrimless.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=5&products_id=234
    which isn't perfect but a step in the right direction.

    Thanks for the help,
    Rick
     
    R D S, Sep 7, 2005
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    Neil Barker Guest

    The background's certainly better, but the glasses are still lit
    poorly, as I'm sure you'll realise.

    You could always get hold of various sponge/plastic dummy heads and use
    them as models ?
     
    Neil Barker, Sep 7, 2005
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    R D S Guest

    The extra challenge comes from the fact that all the glasses are rimless and
    as such have nothing framing the lens, I worry that putting anything behind
    them will reduce the chance of seeing the lens shape. I am having to colour
    the lens edges as it is.
    I will give it a try though.

    Rick
     
    R D S, Sep 7, 2005
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    Tony Polson Guest


    Actually, it was my advice. I'll send you the invoice.

    ;-)
     
    Tony Polson, Sep 7, 2005
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    Phillip Kyle Guest

    Isn't Nelly being helpful today. Licking your wounds eh? PAHAAAA!!

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    Phillip Kyle, Sep 7, 2005
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    Bit like your hair.

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    Phillip Kyle, Sep 7, 2005
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    Phillip Kyle Guest

    Filth!

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    Phillip Kyle, Sep 7, 2005
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    ah Guest

    ROALOPLFOLF!
     
    ah, Sep 8, 2005
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  14. Try using a black reflector. Fold a piece of black card into an arch and
    place it over the glasses as if they're under a bridge. You may find the
    best results are when the glasses are in complete shadow and only the
    background is illuminated.
     
    Willy Eckerslyke, Sep 8, 2005
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  15. A clear glass of water can be lit very nicely with a clean white background
    so highlighting and shadowing the rimless lenses on your glasses should be
    pretty easy to achieve. It all boils down to the quality and positioning of
    the light sources you're using. What are you using at the moment? In post
    Photoshop's Shadow/Highlight function can enhance the visual strength of the
    edges very well too
     
    Simon Stanmore, Sep 8, 2005
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    Phillip Kyle Guest

    *snigger*

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    Phillip Kyle, Sep 8, 2005
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    ah Guest

    Braggart.
     
    ah, Sep 9, 2005
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    ah Guest

    Simulated Filth!
     
    ah, Sep 11, 2005
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    Phillip Kyle Guest

    Braveheart.

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    Phillip Kyle, Sep 11, 2005
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    Stimulated Filth!

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    Phillip Kyle, Sep 11, 2005
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