Thanks Robert Coe

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Alan Browne, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    A quick jot of thanks to Robert Coe.

    My SO and I did a 1 week loop, mostly on the coast from SW CT thru to
    Boston then up through the White Mountains.

    About 2 months ago Robert mentioned the Ansel Adams exhibit "At the
    Water's Edge" showing at the Peabody Essex Museum in Salem. I tried to
    get there in late June, but that didn't pan out. Last week we included
    the PEM (and spent most of the day there).

    http://www.pem.org/exhibitions/139-ansel_adams_at_the_waters_edge

    The AA exhibit was marvelous and while there were a few known photos
    there, most were new to me. A few shots from a teen age AA shooting
    with a brownie showed his eye developed early.

    Seeing these prints (mostly loaned from other museums, collections and
    the AA Trust) was great. I looked at each from far off, close in and
    really close.. The shadow detail and 'glow' in some of the images is
    something to take in. And using the full range of the grey tones,
    subtle ranges and sharp contrasts work together very effectively.

    Out of the whole collection there (about 150 phots, not sure), there are
    about 10 stand outs. True master pieces.

    If in that area it's worth a visit to be sure.

    I bought a book made around the exhibit and two "prints" (litho I
    suspect but the screen is very fine). The prints (on matting) were $25
    ea. and the book $30. The only downside here is that the AA Trust only
    allowed the PEM to offer 9 images in large prints. So a couple that I
    liked particularly were not available.

    And the PEM had other exhibits as well including an often stunning
    Chinese art and artifacts exhibit of ancient through recent paintings,
    sculptures, objets-d'art, commercial "art" and so on.

    There was another photo exhibit by an American photographer revolving
    around her home life. Much dedicated to her parents. Half the shots
    were snapshooty in look. Wasn't too impressed but there were a few very
    good photos.

    Another note, we ate very well on the trip.

    Esp. nice was the Beehive Tavern in East Sandwich (Cape Cod).

    And prices for very good fare and wine were surprisingly low everywhere
    we wandered into (usually with a nudge from the m/hotels we were at).
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 5, 2012
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  2. Nice!

    The first photo on the site you cite: Is it as blurry (in the middle) in
    real life as it appears in the jpeg?
     
    John McWilliams, Aug 5, 2012
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  3. Alan Browne

    Robert Coe Guest

    : A quick jot of thanks to Robert Coe.
    :
    : My SO and I did a 1 week loop, mostly on the coast from SW CT thru to
    : Boston then up through the White Mountains.
    :
    : About 2 months ago Robert mentioned the Ansel Adams exhibit "At the
    : Water's Edge" showing at the Peabody Essex Museum in Salem. I tried to
    : get there in late June, but that didn't pan out. Last week we included
    : the PEM (and spent most of the day there).
    :
    : http://www.pem.org/exhibitions/139-ansel_adams_at_the_waters_edge
    :
    : The AA exhibit was marvelous and while there were a few known photos
    : there, most were new to me.
    :
    : ...
    :
    : Another note, we ate very well on the trip.
    :
    : Esp. nice was the Beehive Tavern in East Sandwich (Cape Cod).
    :
    : And prices for very good fare and wine were surprisingly low everywhere
    : we wandered into (usually with a nudge from the m/hotels we were at).

    You're very welcome, Alan! Glad you enjoyed your visit to our area.

    The trip must have resulted in many pictures taken "on the road". Is your SO a
    photographer too?

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Aug 5, 2012
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  4. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    It's an area I know relatively well. This was an opportunity to visit
    some nooks and crannies - and the PEM. She was closer to your
    particular area last month at a forum near Pittsfield that I had to bail
    on. I was going to use that trip to head over to the PEM.

    She also 'bonused' on that trip by visiting the Norman Rockwell museum
    (Stockbridge) (discovering that he used professional photographers
    extensively in preparation for his illustrations and paintings).

    We visited a place on Cape Cod (Sandwich) called the Heritage Museums
    and Gardens (nice, a bit touristy) which was holding a Norman Rockwell
    exhibit at the time. I enjoyed that part of it esp. (what drew me there
    was a drawing in the hotel office of a Shaker "round barn". I asked if
    that was on Cape Cod and it was. But turns out it was a replica, not an
    original Shaker barn - nice car collection in there if you're into that
    sort of thing).

    One of the Rockwell paintings was
    http://www.doubletakeart.com/images/dtg-50494_large_tr.gif
    Which measured about 8 feet wide. Amazing painting (although it had
    some cliché "Rockwell" elements in it that weakened it IMO).

    And at the entrance to that building was a large transparency from a
    photo that Rockwell took (on commission to Kodak Eastman) that I imagine
    was taken with Kodachrome 25 sheet film. (No info was available). This
    is the only known commissioned photo by Rockwell. (It was part of an
    advertisement displayed at Central or Penn (I don't recall) station in
    NYC.).

    The transparency was obviously based on (or inspired) one of the iconic
    Rockwell's: (Outing: going/coming).
    http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/im...outing-or-coming-and-going-august-30-1947.jpg

    He used a lot of fill lights for the shot (and if you examine the
    transparency you can see where).

    This is the only image I can find online

    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lf-mj_h9XC0/TjsBBpuOAEI/AAAAAAAAAQs/aswXHlVlU-4/11+-+1

    This was a transparency of about 48 x 14 inches. The one that was hung
    in the rail station was much larger.

    He managed to get about 20 people into a composition with all the
    classic elements of a Rockwell moment. (Family closing the cottage,
    kids saying goodbye to friends, dad trying to imagine all that luggage
    in the car and so on.)

    A brilliant photo that was all Rockewell cliché.
    Less than I would have thought. Yes, but she didn't take a single
    photo. She did find some bolet mushrooms and 'took' those.
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 5, 2012
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  5. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    On my screens this image (your link above) comes up with blown
    highlights - perhaps that was deliberately done by the PEM/AA Trust (?).[1]

    There was no blur per se (some AA's have areas of uncertain focus or
    sharpness not due to motion[2]). I'm looking at the same image in the
    book I bought (Plate 55 "Stream, Sea and clouds, Rodeo Lagoon, Marin
    County, California, 1962") and it is not as blown out as on the website.
    Take it into PS and bring the brightness down to -60 and it's close to
    the image in the book - at least on my monitor.

    The image above has a lot of specular reflections that break the tones
    of the contrasting areas. It also has areas that are blown highlights
    in the waves breaking on the beach.

    Suffice to say the image on the website doesn't do justice to the image
    in the book - and the image in the book isn't quite up to the print at
    the PEM.

    [1] Be sure that many of AA's images do have blown highlights, esp. in
    foamy water and clouds. But they are on the very edge, not large blobs
    of undefinition.

    [2] While AA didn't have much selective focus in the prints I saw, the
    sharpness was not uniform in all images. Some were tack sharp, some
    were sharp and some were a bit soft (some really early stuff was plain
    soft). And some images had inexplicable areas of softness in otherwise
    deep DOF images.
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 5, 2012
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  6. Alan Browne

    Joe Makowiec Guest

    Joe Makowiec, Aug 6, 2012
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  7. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    Yes. The particular one, in any detail is the last on that list - but
    shows cropped at that link. The 2nd link doesn't work.
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 6, 2012
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  8. Alan Browne

    Bowser Guest

    Did any of us Pan Mass rider get in your way over the trip?
     
    Bowser, Aug 6, 2012
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  9. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    Had to look that up. Were you on that ride?

    We didn't see many cyclists. The odd pair here and there. Most 2 lane
    highways that we were on were generously large with wide shoulders, so
    cyclists were never an issue to pass.

    We weren't in MA very much. We booted straight south from Montreal to
    White Plains (87) and then slowly worked our way north (mainly on US 1)
    thru CT, RI and to CC. After that swung around Boston, thence to Salem
    (did the "witch" museum which was, er, entertaining) and the PEM. Next
    day in the White Mountains and entered QC at the southeast 'corner'
    (VT/NH).

    Should have taken a photo - one of the signs on a fellow's yard:

    "Northern Pass can kiss my ass!"

    then a mile or so on:

    "Ditto!"

    (NP is a 1200MW HVDC QC-NH project that is not winning fans all over NH).

    Also got stopped for an illegal pass in NH. I had been trying to get
    around a pickup truck for a while and finally had a straight stretch,
    good view and did it. But, it was a construction zone within which one
    is not allowed to pass in NH (there was a sign, he said, but I never saw
    it). The trooper took my paperwork and then came back with a verbal
    warning. Nice fellow.
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 6, 2012
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