The Day After Tomorrow = Avoidable? It's Crap? It's too far fetched?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by T. Nguyen, May 27, 2004.

  1. T. Nguyen

    T. Nguyen Guest

    After walking out of the theater showing Independance Daywas
    disapointed.. all of my friends, and all of the reviews bashed it.
    After walking out of the theater showing GODZILLA .. I thought it was
    OK.. but the group of people I went to see it with walked out tearing
    up
    their ticket stubb, laughing out loud about it, saying how ridiculous
    it was.. and GODZILLA also got bashed by all the reviews.

    The directors next big film is out .. "The Day After Tommorrow" and I
    have been reading reviews from pre-screeners that have said that it is
    as bad as those 2 movies.
    I was watching some scientists on TV today saying how ridiculously
    unbelievable the events in the movie were.. something about how the
    stratosphere concept in the movie was just not possible.. I guess I'm
    waiting for this movie to go to the dollar films so I dont have to pay
    for a crap movie
     
    T. Nguyen, May 27, 2004
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    david.mccall Guest

    It's fiction, not a documentary, and most documentaries are about
    80% fiction anyway.

    It doesn't matter what kind of film it is. If you talk to a professional
    that
    actually works in the field being depicted on the screen, he/she will tell
    you that the movie is total bullshit. The funniest part is even when the
    movies depict the movie business, they still get it wrong.

    I've come to believe that most of what is written about history is written
    by people that would rather be writing a novel.

    Apparently, it doesn't really matter if what they do on screen could really
    happen or not. It's just somebody's made up little story. I'm sure there
    must be exceptions, but most of the time you are best off not believing
    anything you see in a movie. There might be some truth, but it isn't
    worth expending the energy to looking for it.

    David
     
    david.mccall, May 27, 2004
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    Deco_time Guest


    Based on that criteria alone, the Lord of the ring trilogy would be "crap"
    also; but to me, the actor play, photography, music, costume, decor, special
    effect, range of emotion and social contexte exploited all combined to make
    it one of the few masterpieces cinema ever produced.
    I haven't seen "The day after tomorrow", and it's possible that it is crap,
    but I feel something more than "scientific impossibility" should be used to
    judge cinematographique work as it is an art form after all.
    (BTW, I agree about Independance Day and Godzilla, none of which I was able
    to suffer trough to the end :)
     
    Deco_time, May 27, 2004
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  4. I think Fahrenheit 9/11 that just won a price is 100% true though :)
    JP
     
    Jan Panteltje, May 27, 2004
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  5. According to the Chief Government Scientist for the UK, "Climate change
    is a bigger threat to humanity than terrorism" Even the relatively
    politically and economically biased American science community is coming
    around to this conclusion. In the last weeks the Chief Scientific
    advisor to the White House has stated that carbon based global warming
    can now be proven and that the Amazon is providing an exponentially
    increasing 'carbon sink' that is unsustainable, resulting in reaching a
    critical level that would trigger almost instant, in historical terms,
    super heating, releasing the massive, previously ice locked, methane
    deposits beneath the Arctic etc., etc. Interestingly, this has happened
    before according to research carried out by Dr. Peter Cox and Dr.
    Richard Betts of the UK's conservative and understating Hadley Centre
    (Part of the UK governments highly respected Meteorological Office).

    Coincidentally, other scientific advisers to the Pentagon warned
    planners to expect massive disorder caused by large population
    displacements world wide due to the effects of global warming on human
    habitats.

    Ostriches with their heads in the sand denying everything that is not
    actually thumping them in their faces are not helping.

    Prepare for the big one. You think our little lives on this planet is
    important?

    "I shall come like a thief in the night"
     
    Moving Vision, May 27, 2004
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    nappy Guest

    Um... yeah.. Everything Moore does is 100% true.. uh huh.. want some more
    koolaid?
     
    nappy, May 27, 2004
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    nappy Guest

    Well.. that would be easy if groups of idiots like moveon.org and Al Gore
    weren;t using the movie as a political tool. There are so many airheads in
    America that all it takes is one goof to start saying something and they all
    believe it.
     
    nappy, May 27, 2004
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    nappy Guest


    its "are important"

    want some more Kool-Aid?
     
    nappy, May 27, 2004
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    david.mccall Guest

    The point is, that what you wrote above is all the facts a movie script
    writer needs to write a whole movie. The rest they just can make up.
    The author gets to decide how big the tidal waves are going to be,
    they could even have the atmosphere freeze into crystals and crash
    to the ground killing everything except the core cast. They could even
    have Chicken Little predict the whole thing.

    Movies are fiction. Your report above does not give the day after tomorrow
    any more credibility than Sadam gives to "Aladdin, the thief of Baghdad".

    David
     
    david.mccall, May 27, 2004
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    david.mccall Guest

    Think what you want. It's your right.

    I've not seen the movie, but I'll bet that even though the footage is real,
    the context and the script likely have a huge dose of fiction to make
    it more "fun" for the audience.

    If Bush were anywhere near the idiot people want to portray him as
    he would never made it through School, much less become a Governor
    or President.

    I'm not a big fan of Bush, and find it sad that he was the best we could
    come up with. However, if you think about it, who would want to go
    through the aggravation and humiliation that the President has to endure
    from the other opposing party. Plus you could get killed. The pay is
    not nearly as good as a major executive of a corporation can get.
    It's just not a good job.

    David
     
    david.mccall, May 27, 2004
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    Bill Van Dyk Guest

    Like "communist infiltration"? Like "missile gap"? Like "war on
    drugs"? Like "trickle down economics"? Like "arms for hostages"? Like
    "energy crisis"?

    Like "Weapons of Mass Destruction"? Gosh, I think you're right.
    Airheads in America will believe anything. No wonder there are so many
    threats out there-- that's how Washington maintains order.

    What I really like this is gung-ho attitude towards science. Let's
    see-- it isn't completely unanimous yet (about global warming), and some
    Oil Industry-funded scientists aren't on board yet, so, to hell with
    it-- let's take our chances on causing irreversible damage to the
    environment so we can all keep driving those Hummers....
     
    Bill Van Dyk, May 27, 2004
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  12. T. Nguyen

    david.mccall Guest

    What's in the Kool-Aid?

    David
     
    david.mccall, May 27, 2004
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    nappy Guest

    Well put, Mr McCall. To me.. what make this so odd is how moveon.org and
    Gore try use this movie as some sort of tool... I mean it just seems like
    desperation... especially since the entire movie is one big special effect
    interrupted occasionally by bad performances from the usual group of B & C
    actors and based an FearScience..

    I wonder if moveon.org would be touting it if they knew that FOX produced
    it. ;)
     
    nappy, May 27, 2004
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    nappy Guest

    Talkin' about a movie here Bill.. Relax. Take it easy. My car gets 40Mpg..
    Everything is allright... take a pill..
     
    nappy, May 27, 2004
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    Gary P Guest

    Both sides are using that movie as a political pawn. The problem is that
    far-fetched or not it's just a mediocre movie and they are unwittingly (?)
    giving it a lot of promotion. As do discussions like this.
     
    Gary P, May 28, 2004
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    Ryan Boni Guest

    So, let me get this straight...you don't want to go see a FICTITIOUS movie
    because a bunch of scientists say that the events in the movie could not
    happen....Hmmmmm......Kinda wipes out the whole SCI-FI genre...and most
    comedies....and just about every other fictitious work................ Did
    these brilliant scientists mention whether it was a fun movie........or a
    thought-provoking movie....or did they just comment on the reality of it?


    Ryan
     
    Ryan Boni, May 28, 2004
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    nappy Guest

    a 'liberal' does of lsd I suppose ;)
     
    nappy, May 28, 2004
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    TonyP Guest

    It's a friggin movie. that is all it is.
     
    TonyP, May 28, 2004
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    david.mccall Guest

    It's a sad day when people start thinking that Science Fiction movies
    have to be accurate because people like Gore think they should be
    educational movies for the people that are too dumb to know what
    is going on in the world.

    People don't, or at least shouldn't, go to the movies to get the news.
    Movies are fantasy. They are a release from reality. They are not a
    news broadcast or documentary. It's all lies folks. Don't believe a
    word of it. Ever.

    If people want to learn about global warming and the impending disasters
    it might cause, there are better places than the movies to learn about it.

    David
     
    david.mccall, May 28, 2004
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    Gary P Guest

    Does anyone have a single quote in which anyone has actually said this? All
    I have heard anyone say is that it raises issues that are important. I
    haven't heard one single quote - either from Gore of moveon.org - that says
    we should discuss this movie on the basis that what it actually presents is
    likely. I have only encountered comments that say the issue of global
    warming, which the movie addresses in (weakly) dramatic terms, is important.

    Unless anyone has that quote this accusation that anyone is saying the
    events in this movie are believable as presented is just one huge straw man
    argument, designed to deflect attention from the Republicans' woeful
    environmental record.
     
    Gary P, May 28, 2004
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