The end of truly high-end lenses?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by RichA, Sep 30, 2007.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Both Leica and Zeiss are not turning out "cut rate" lenses. The
    introduction of plastic, the cheapening of the quality of the lenses
    to allow price cutting would seem to indicate that the era of the high
    quality lens is now ending. Now, not many people will shell out
    $2000-4000 for a fixed focal length lens in the 50-100mm focal range,
    but it's nice to know that lenses do exist for those who want them.
    Meanwhile, expect prices for older, used top grade lenses to climb.
     
    RichA, Sep 30, 2007
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  2. Thank you, Captain Obvious.
     
    Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig, Sep 30, 2007
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  3. RichA

    Robert Coe Guest

    : Both Leica and Zeiss are not turning out "cut rate" lenses. The
    : introduction of plastic, the cheapening of the quality of the lenses
    : to allow price cutting would seem to indicate that the era of the high
    : quality lens is now ending. Now, not many people will shell out
    : $2000-4000 for a fixed focal length lens in the 50-100mm focal range,
    : but it's nice to know that lenses do exist for those who want them.
    : Meanwhile, expect prices for older, used top grade lenses to climb.

    This paragraph, as printed, makes little or no sense. Did you mean to say
    "Leica and Zeiss are *now* turning out 'cut rate' lenses"?
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 30, 2007
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  4. RichA

    Frank Arthur Guest

    Stranger yet, did you ever know anyone who bought a fixed focal length
    lens and paid $2000-4000 for it?
     
    Frank Arthur, Sep 30, 2007
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  5. I assume you mean in the 50-100mm range. If so, the answer is no, since
    both the people I know with 50mm Noctilux's paid more than $4000 for
    them and I don't know anyone personally who bought a Canon 50mm f/1.0L.

    If you are willing to stretch the range a bit, I've used a 105mm f/4.5
    UV-Micro-Nikkor, for which the owner paid around $3200. (CoastalOpt
    sells a clone for about $4500).
     
    Michael Benveniste, Sep 30, 2007
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  6. RichA

    RichA Guest

    They show up on Ebay all the time. Someone is buying them.
     
    RichA, Oct 1, 2007
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  7. Sure, if its for an 8x10 view camera
     
    Doug McDonald, Oct 1, 2007
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  8. RichA

    Toby Guest

    I have an old Dagor view camera lens. The workmanship is stunning. The iris
    has about 20 blades and everything is made of precision machined brass.
    There have been no truly high-end lenses for years.

    Toby
     
    Toby, Oct 2, 2007
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  9. The Nikon Noct-Nikkor 58mm f/1.2 AI-S, which ceased
    production 10 years ago, typically runs between $2000
    and $3000 used, and every one offered on eBay in that
    price range does sell.

    Plus of course if you were not limiting that to 50-100mm
    lenses, there are many longer fixed focal length lenses
    from numerous manufacturers that are priced well *above*
    the $2000-4000 range.
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Oct 2, 2007
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  10. RichA

    Frank Arthur Guest

    I think you didn't read the sentance above before you answered.
    "did you ever" not "somebody on Ebay paid"!
     
    Frank Arthur, Oct 2, 2007
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    Charlie Self Guest

    Yes. There are several Nikon and Canon based pros in this area who
    have paid that much and more for single focal length lenses. I would
    guess that just about anywhere you find pros, you'll find high end
    lenses.
     
    Charlie Self, Oct 2, 2007
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  12. 1) There is no logically valid point to your question!

    2) My response is not restricted to your question.

    3) There *is* a logically valid point to my response.
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Oct 3, 2007
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  13. RichA

    tomm42 Guest


    Also take a look at prices for Leica M lenses, especially the f1.4s.

    Tom
     
    tomm42, Oct 3, 2007
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  14. So ... how's the image quality you somehow don't mention?
    Ashamed of it?

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Oct 3, 2007
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  15. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Speaking of....

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Leica-50mm-f1-2...ryZ30030QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
     
    RichA, Oct 4, 2007
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  16. RichA

    Toby Guest

    It's missing elements and I use it as a wonderful soft-focus lens. And of
    course coating technologies have come a long way in the past 100 years. I
    was speaking about the build quality.

    Toby
     
    Toby, Oct 5, 2007
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  17. Well, in 1886 Lord Rayleigh observed that old, slightly tarnished
    pieces of glass transmitted _more_ light than new, clean ones.

    But a viable process for coating lenses was first found
    (and applied for as patent) in November 1935 by the Ukrainian
    physicist Alexander Smakula, working for Zeiss (Jena), and was
    a German military secret till 1941 or so, when the USA developed
    a similar method.

    Hmmm.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Oct 5, 2007
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  18. RichA

    Toby Guest

    Actually the Zeiss Planar for my Hassy is pretty nice too.

    Toby
     
    Toby, Oct 6, 2007
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    jj Guest

    I assume Nikon has determined that the demand/market for a lens like
    the 58mm f1.2 Nocturnal is too thin at a profitable price for them?

    I am so kicking myself for not buying at least 1 of these years ago.

    jj
     
    jj, Oct 7, 2007
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  20. As a soft-focus lens? :->

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Oct 7, 2007
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