The hands still work.

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Dudley Hanks, May 18, 2008.

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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Dudley Hanks, May 18, 2008
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    Tesseract Guest

    Thats an Okay photo, if your going to be doing shots like that you
    want to use your mirror lock up setting in your camera (for DSLR) and
    fast glass, like f/1.2 or f/1.4 if you got it.

    Here is a review on what I have for when I want to hand-hold in low
    light...
    http://www.hyperphotocube.com/2008/04/30/the-noct-nikkor-58mm-112-lens-review.html
     
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    philo Guest

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    Chris Guest

    Good info!
     
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Thats an Okay photo, if your going to be doing shots like that you
    want to use your mirror lock up setting in your camera (for DSLR) and
    fast glass, like f/1.2 or f/1.4 if you got it.

    Two things:

    First, the Canon A720 is a point-and-shoot; it doesn't have a mirror to
    lock up. But, I'll take it as a compliment that you seem to think I'm using
    a DSLR. Maybe it's not so daft to compare my little pocket camera to the D3
    after all.

    Second, I know all about fast glass, etc. In fact, if you look at the EXXIF
    data on the full-size shot on my site, you will see that I shot the pic at
    ISO 100. Moving the ISO up to 400, 800 or 1600 would have given me a faster
    speed, but it would have made the shot noisier. Also, I shot it at f/4, but
    my camera is capable of about f/2.9 (if I remember correctly), but using
    that aperture would have resulted in a shot with less clarity. I tend to
    shoot with the aperture bumped down 2 or three notches to get the best pic
    my camera is capable of.

    From my point of view, I know it isn't the best shot in the world, but it's
    nearing the best that I can do with that particular camera -- handheld at 1
    second?

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Yes, I had to pick my moment VERY carefully.

    Grin,
    Dudley
     
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    George Kerby Guest

    I think that you may have a tiny amout of movement, but it makes the shot
    work. The larger lizard in the back has teeth emphasized by the movement,
    IMHO. In addition, the tilt adds drama to the composition. Good work!
     
    George Kerby, May 18, 2008
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    George Kerby Guest

    I'm sure Dudley appreciates all your sage advice. However, if you read what
    he wrote, you wouldn't have said anything about it. If you can find a mirror
    lock on a PowerShot, please let all of us know where it is, OK?
     
    George Kerby, May 18, 2008
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    I knew there had to be some movement there. Thanks, George, you're the
    first one to notice it.

    I want to go back to the museum later this summer when it won't be so busy
    and try a few more shots. There is some great subject matter there.

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
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    JT's Ghost Guest

    I didn't notice the exxif data when I opened the the full frame. ;-( I
    considered three things, a) hand held image, b) P&S camera, c) taken by
    a man with limited eyesight... I've concluded that you have more vision
    than most with better eyesight, and that good photography skill trumps
    high end optics. VERY NICE!!!


    - JT
    gives this effort a two thumbs up...
     
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Perhaps I'm using the wrong term when I say "EXIF" data. I'm a bit new to
    the digital way of doing things, so I might have screwed that up.

    But, when I've got the image on my system, and I use Windows Explorer to do
    file management, right clicking the file and choosing "Properties" brings up
    a dialogue box from which I can access the data that records shutter speed,
    aperture, camera make, model and mode, etc.

    I didn't check to see if that info transferred to the net copy, but if it
    didn't, I'll try to find a way to get it there.

    Thanks for bringing that to my attention, and thank you for the compliment.
    The respect of my peers means a lot to mee.

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
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    jimkramer Guest

    The frustrating thing about IS is when you move further than what the system
    can compensate. If you go to the full size image and look at the dinosaur’s
    eyes; there are highlights that look like a greater than sign, “>”. That’s
    a correction when you moved further than the IS could handle.

    It is almost always easier to deal with a little noise and remove it in post
    processing then to deal with the motion blurring. Bump up the ISO a little.

    -Jim
     
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Unfortunately, I can't read the info displayed in my LCD prior to shooting,
    so the first shot I take at any particular shoot can be a bit surprising --
    especially when using Av mode.

    In this case, My wife and I had spent about half an hour trying to get a
    clear shot, and, when the shot was so slow, I thought, "the hell with it,"
    and headed for the coffee shop. I just wasn't in to fighting for every
    shot.

    But, you are right, Jim. If I had taken more shots and gone for something I
    wanted to frame, I would have bumped up the ISO to 200 or 400, and i might
    have even tried a few at a wider aperture just for braketing purposes.
    Something else I might have done is to dial down the exposure compensation
    another notch or two, just to see if the dinos could have been made more
    pronounced on a darker background, but from what people have told me of this
    shot, I doubt that technique would have worked.

    Of course, I also had planned to use a tripod if the crowds weren't too bad
    later in the evening -- but I forgot the tripod at home, and we didn't
    stick around long enough for the masses to clear.

    But, since this was more of a "fishing trip" to see what I could do with
    that camera in that setting, I'm happy with the results.I'll probably head
    back later this summer when the crowds thin out and see what happens.

    BTW, thanks for telling me about the highlight in the eye. I doubt I'll use
    this shot for anything other than my blog, but if I do, I'll see if
    something can be done to clean that up.

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
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    jimkramer Guest

    Hind sight is always 20/20, well, sometimes it's not. :) For the smaller
    sized print the motion and the highlights are not really an issue, now if
    you wanted to do a 12 X 18 inch print then it would be an issue.

    Most of the museums in this area will not even let you bring in a tripod.

    Honestly, if you are having a great time, than who am I, or anyone else for
    that matter, to say otherwise. Keep having fun with that camera.

    Have you seen a "pen reader" about the size of a large ball point pen that
    will read or spell out printed text? I was wondering if that would work on
    the LCD screen?

    -Jim
     
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Have you seen a "pen reader" about the size of a large ball point pen that
    No, I've tried a few magnifying glasses, but I haven't found anything that
    is satisfactory, yet. In full manual and Tv, I can count the beeps to
    figure out what the settings are, but Av keeps surprising me.

    If you happen to come across anything like a stilos sized reader, please,
    let me know. That would be a great tool.

    BTW, when I mentioned the tripod in my previous post, I was talking about
    one of those little tabletop things. In this particular museum, there are
    quite a few benches, chairs, etc that are provided for people who need a
    rest. They'd make a good platform to plop down a point-and-shoot for a
    couple of seconds to get a shot.

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
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    jimkramer Guest

    This is what I believe I saw some time ago.
    http://www.wizcomtech.com/Wizcom/products/product_info.asp?fid=172

    I have no idea if it will work with an LCD screen, but if it does...

    -Jim
     
    jimkramer, May 19, 2008
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