The horror of plastic 2: What happened to Sony

Discussion in 'Sony' started by RichA, Jan 9, 2006.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Apparently, the cause of the failures that lead to Sony camera being
    kicked out of
    China is that the CCDs in cameras were made with an epoxy instead of
    ceramic.
    The result of that and the heat and humidity and "applying too much
    pressure" on the camera
    bodies warps the CCDs resulting in scrambled images. Sony maintains
    that it effects only a few
    cameras, but they used this mfg technique from 2002 to 2004. Another
    example of the misapplication of a "plastic" to manufacturing. Photo
    Techniques magazine ran the story.
     
    RichA, Jan 9, 2006
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    Brian Trosko Guest

    You're such a fucking idiot. CCDs are *semiconductor devices*. They're
    made out of doped silicon.
     
    Brian Trosko, Jan 9, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    Read the story if you've got a problem with it.
    Semiconductors (you idiot) can be contained within plastic or ceramic.
     
    RichA, Jan 9, 2006
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    Brian Trosko Guest

    Speak English, you dunderfuck. You claimed that they were making the CCDs
    out of epoxy.
     
    Brian Trosko, Jan 9, 2006
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    StickmanEG Guest

    Dunderfuck! Hahahahahaha! Brilliant!
     
    StickmanEG, Jan 9, 2006
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  6. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Maybe encapsulating?
     
    RichA, Jan 9, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/badccds.html

    Several different explanations for this problem have been put forward
    by various parties. Our own industry contacts indicated that the
    problem was caused by the use of epoxy chip packages for the failing
    sensor units, rather than more robust (and also much more expensive)
    ceramic packages. The environmental sealing of epoxy circuit packaging
    is generally not as good as that of ceramic packaging, and in the case
    of the failing sensors appears to have let moisture enter the chip
    cavity itself. This seemed to be a quite plausible explanation, but
    subsequently, two other possible causes came to our attention.
     
    RichA, Jan 9, 2006
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    Mike King Guest

    So you changed your handle after I put you in a kill file? PLONK
     
    Mike King, Jan 9, 2006
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  9. LOL. Now, show me where it says anything about plastic. If you think
    that "epoxy" is "plastic", then you are even more ignorant than I
    thought. (And I thought that that was impossible).
     
    Andrey Tarasevich, Jan 9, 2006
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  10. It just proves that he really is bothered by people sticking him in
    their kill file. It's good to know we can be a pain in his arse too. ;)
     
    Michael Johnson, PE, Jan 9, 2006
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    Jasen Guest

    I'm sure there's medical condition termanology for people who simply like to
    put up pointless self-promoting crap on NGs which either nobody is
    interested in or thinks is the rantings of a loon.
     
    Jasen, Jan 9, 2006
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  12. RichA

    Rich Guest

    But someone here assured me epoxy (as used in carbon fibre) is
    plastic!!!
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Jan 10, 2006
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    Rich Guest

    Just two different posting addresses, don't let it get you in a tizzy.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Jan 10, 2006
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    Jeff R Guest

    Well, slap my face and brand me stupid. (Again!)
    If epoxy isn't plastic, what is it?
     
    Jeff R, Jan 10, 2006
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    Sheldon Guest

    Isn't epoxy a resin?
     
    Sheldon, Jan 10, 2006
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    nick c Guest

    Sho-nuff is.

    And ... what is resin? Chemically, resin is a synthetic organic polymer.
    And ... what is plastic? Plastic is a synthetic material made from a
    wide range of synthetic polymers.
     
    nick c, Jan 10, 2006
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  17. CANT THIS IDIOT BE BANNED IN SOME WAY SO WE DONT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH HIS
    DRIVEL?
     
    Nigel Cummings, Jan 10, 2006
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  18. Yes, you can create a message filter using his posting information. If
    everyone would kill file him and/or ignore his posts he would leave here
    from sheer boredom.
     
    Michael Johnson, PE, Jan 10, 2006
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  19. Firstly, it like saying that if water is used to make tea then water
    _is_ tea. Makes no sense.

    Secondly, carbon fiber (as combination of epoxy and the actual fiber)
    parts are much stronger and much lighter and much more expensive than
    same magnesium alloy parts due to technological difficulties associated
    with mass-producing of carbon fiber parts (take a look at automotive
    applications for example). You, one the other hand, are talking about
    "plastics" as _cheaper_ alternative to metals. This automatically means
    that your "plastics" cannot possibly include carbon fiber. Which brings
    the question: why are you mentioning carbon fiber here? Do you think
    that carbon fiber is an example of those cheap inferior "plastics" you
    keep taking about? If so, you don't have a slightest clue then. No news
    here though... But I still hope that you don't think that MontBlank
    finishes their pens in carbon fiber "to reduce cost"...
     
    Andrey Tarasevich, Jan 10, 2006
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  20. Can't you fix your CapsLock key and buy a dictionary?
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Jan 11, 2006
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