The Judges House Photo

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    mmyvusenet Guest

    mmyvusenet, Jun 4, 2010
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    dadiOH Guest

    It's not a picture of a house. It is a picture of a horse. And a guy
    taking pictures of (presumably) whoever is in the carriage.

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    tony cooper Guest

    Jeez. The Judge's House (Casa del Oidor) is the large ochre building
    in the background. It is one of the oldest buildings in Lima and was
    built in the 17th century.

    The word "house" does not always mean a private dwelling. Many public
    buildings in countries all over the world are called (something)
    House.

    This is one of Miguel's better shots. He's photographed a landmark in
    Lima and added some interest to the photo by including some local
    color with the horse and carriage. It is much more interesting than a
    view of the building only.

    It's a little dark, and Miguel should have waited until the man with
    the camera was out of the frame. Still, quite an advancement for
    Miguel.
     
    tony cooper, Jun 4, 2010
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    mmyvusenet Guest


    Hello, I did an improvement to the photo:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmyv/4549198813/

    Perhaps now is better, by the way, when I was taking the photo I tried that
    did not appear that person in the bottom , saying "Permiso estoy tomando una
    foto", but he wanted to be there, it seems that his family were in the
    carriage and wanted to photograph.
     
    mmyvusenet, Jun 4, 2010
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    dadiOH Guest

    Jeez, I am aware of that. I was pointing out that the building is not the
    primary subject.


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    dadiOH Guest

    Claro puedes esperar hasta el hombre se mueve.

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    tony cooper Guest

    Photographs of buildings are rarely interesting. No matter how
    historic or pleasingly designed the building is, a straight-on
    photograph of it is usually pretty dull. You have to shoot from odd
    angles or perspective to make building shots of interest.

    By including the horse and carriage, Miguel has added a bit of
    Peruvian color to the image. The building makes a better backdrop
    than it does a subject. The building is still prominent enough to be
    of some interest.

    You seem to be commenting on the title of photo rather than the photo
    itself. The title "Horse, carriage, and pedestrian with a p&s in from
    of The Judge's House" would nullify your objection, but it's a bit
    unwieldy.
     
    tony cooper, Jun 5, 2010
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    Peter Guest


    Qué pasa si el carro se mueve mientras se espera.
     
    Peter, Jun 5, 2010
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    Pete Guest

    We rarely agree on anything Tony, this time I agree.

    I particularly liked the sunlight colour balance of the horse - if more
    neutral then the white lines would look too blue and the building would
    lose its Peruvian character. What you think (question phrased in
    accordance with my local characters)?
     
    Pete, Jun 5, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    Is it you, or is it Peter, or is it both of you that I so often clash
    with?
    Baby steps with Miguel. In this effort he's produced an interesting
    composition with fewer flaws than his other efforts. Let's give him
    props for progressing this much and not worry about what could have
    been done in post.
     
    tony cooper, Jun 5, 2010
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    dadiOH Guest

    Entonces el hombre sale tambien, no? Resulta que no carro ni hombre en el
    foto de la casa.

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    Pete Guest

    Both, I think.

    It's easy to tell us apart. Peter is the intelligent one. I
    occasionally show a little spark of brightness during the short
    intervals that my mental fog clears a little, but generally I'm a
    bumbling buffoon: the self-proclaimed jerk that understands why Clint
    Eastwood said in one of his movies "A man's gotta know his
    limitations." I would say HTH but you could interpret that to be
    sarcastic, which it is not.
    Although I have produced a few cracking images, I commented on this
    photo by Miguel because I would be very pleased to have taken it
    myself. It captured an instant in time: even another photographer that
    was there for a more important reason. Not only that, I felt the colour
    balance (whether by chance via auto or set deliberately) was perfect
    for the image.
     
    Pete, Jun 6, 2010
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    mmyvusenet Guest


    Hello, It would be well: "Entonces, el hombre también sale, ¿no? Pero
    resulta que tampoco habría carro ni hombre en la foto de la casa."

    The grammar of the Spanish language is much more complex than in English.
     
    mmyvusenet, Jun 6, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    AFAIK We only clashed once, over a linguistics issue. However, neither of us
    ever resorted to vulgaraties. I don't recall you doing so with Pete, either.
    It's fine to disagree. Indeed if everyone agreed all the time it would be a
    dull world.
    for reasons I previously stated, unless he changes his profession, he will
    never progress further than snap shooter.
     
    Peter, Jun 6, 2010
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    Peter Guest


    Entonces se pierde el acento que pone el transporte
     
    Peter, Jun 6, 2010
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    Peter Guest


    Wow, talk about kettles and pots.
     
    Peter, Jun 6, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    He's an accountant, isn't he? Why would being an accountant hold him
    back photographically?

    While the general stereotype of an accountant - the green eyeshade and
    linen ink cuffs sort - is that of a dull and unimaginative person, the
    accountants that I know personally are anything but that. There are a
    few accountants in my camera club that are quite accomplished
    photographers.

    If anything holds him back, it's his extremely - and painfully -
    limited interest in subject matter: church-related subjects and zoo
    denizens. That's too bad considering that he lives in a city that is
    rich in photographic subject matter and could provide views that most
    of us have never seen. I'd like to see some photographs of Lima
    street vendors, for example, but Miguel has to decide what he wants to
    photograph. He's not here to please me.

    As I've said many times here, if those are *his* interest areas, then
    it's not our business to criticize his choices. It is our business to
    criticize his efforts when he links to them here and *asks* for
    feedback, but most of the comments are excessively heavy-handed. (And
    mostly by people like Bruce who don't have the balls to offer their
    own efforts for review)

    I'd compare him, in a way, to John Sisker. John travels all over the
    world and the offers up a photograph of the shipboard hors d'oeuvres
    table or the empty swimming pool on the Varicose Vein deck of the USS
    Turkey Neck Princess.
     
    tony cooper, Jun 6, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    That's the kind of thing that drives me bats. We have never clashed
    over linguistics. I don't know enough about linguistics to argue any
    point. Linguistics is the study of languages: the origins of language
    and the effects of language change to social structure. It deals with
    the structure of language more than the usage of language. My
    interest is usage.

    The newsgroup sci.lang is the hang-out for the linguistic boffins.
    There are several regulars in that group who can't construct a
    coherent statement, but can natter on endlessly about Saussurean
    signs, semiotics, typology, and that sort of thing.

    A linguist can explain Assyrian cuneiform development, but not
    necessarily modern English usage or vocabulary issues. Enter into a
    newsgroup discussion with Peter T. Daniels and you'll see what I mean.
     
    tony cooper, Jun 6, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    I will try for a really short and simplified answer.
    I know more than a few accountants personally. While many do not fit the
    steroetype, a lot of them do. Accountants who join your club, would not
    normally fit the stereotype. The accounting profession has many facets
    including deal creation, analysis, audit, planning and auditing. When we
    examine financial statements we expect consistence. That means the same
    items are treated the same way from year to year.
    Consistency is the antithesis of creativity. I have heard far too many
    accountants who will respond in answer to a question, how did we do it last
    year. That the treatment might have been wrong in a prior year is a
    situation that they are reluctant to face.

    Most amateur photographers shoot to please themselves. Professionals shoot
    to please their clients. I won't comment on club photographers who shoot to
    please an unnamed judge.
    Agreed.
    And a comment on futility is warranted well intentioned comments are
    ignored.
    LOL
     
    Peter, Jun 6, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Ah! And I consider usage to be a sub set of linguistics.
    Whenever I opened Fowler I quickly fell asleep.

    But Cambridge fascinated me.
     
    Peter, Jun 6, 2010
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