The mystery of EOS-5D...

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by ThomasH, Oct 1, 2005.

  1. ThomasH

    ThomasH Guest

    For me, pardon me, this camera has controls of an EOS-30/EOS-Elan
    at best. Yet with its price this camera position itself as yet
    another variation of "EOS-1D a,b,c,s MK II,III,IV seven, heaven"

    It this the nostalgia for the full size 35mm sensor what makes
    it so expensive??? I have extenred expected price of $1300 fot
    it in my pricegrabber watchlist. Than I would spen such money
    for this body. Otherwise, thank you, I will stay without.

    Thomas
     
    ThomasH, Oct 1, 2005
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  2. ThomasH

    Annika1980 Guest

    It this the nostalgia for the full size 35mm sensor what makes
    it so expensive??? I have extenred expected price of $1300 fot
    it in my pricegrabber watchlist. Than I would spen such money
    for this body. Otherwise, thank you, I will stay without.
    ===============

    How many other 12.7MP cameras are sold for $1300?
    Keep dreamin, pal.
     
    Annika1980, Oct 1, 2005
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  3. Every DSLR Canon has ever made for "Enthusiasts" has had design flaws,
    manufacturing faults and compatibility problems. Why would this offering
    be any different?
     
    Pix on Canvas, Oct 1, 2005
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  4. ThomasH

    Matt Clara Guest

    Keep waiting, it'll come.
     
    Matt Clara, Oct 1, 2005
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  5. ThomasH

    Annika1980 Guest

    Every DSLR Canon has ever made for "Enthusiasts" has had design flaws,
    What compatibility problems? They don't use film?
     
    Annika1980, Oct 1, 2005
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  6. ThomasH

    ThomasH Guest


    Don't be surprised Brett when we get there faster than you
    think! Sensor is just a semiconductor, see how much the power
    of complexity of our CPU's has increased, while holding a flat
    price per unit.

    Anyway, what I mean is that its not only the resolution
    what makes up the price. 8-10Mpix EVF cameras are now
    in plenty for well below $1000, including sometimes a
    great lens by Zeiss or Leica. So what makes you think
    that resolution alone justifies the price in the EOS-5D?

    I would expect the same set of controls and a weather seal,
    which pros like so much in the EOS-1 series.

    Thomas
     
    ThomasH, Oct 2, 2005
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  7. ThomasH

    Matt Clara Guest

    Everything ever made by humans has these problems. That's because we don't
    live in a perfect universe. As George Carlin says, this isn't what one
    would expect of an omnipotent being, it's more like what we'd expect from a
    disgruntled office temp!
     
    Matt Clara, Oct 2, 2005
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  8. Well that's one I didn't think of!
    No, some lenses and Speedlites, Bret. Not to mention not a single "grip"
    is interchangeable or compatible with any other (Canon) camera.
     
    Pix on Canvas, Oct 2, 2005
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  9. ThomasH

    Annika1980 Guest

    So what makes you think that resolution alone justifies the price in the EOS-5D?

    I never said the price was justified (it isn't for me).
    The fact is, however, that the 5D currently offers a unique combination
    of features at it's price point. If you want the best and want it
    first, you'll always pay more.

    Otherwise, wait a few years for Nikon to catch up.
     
    Annika1980, Oct 2, 2005
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  10. ThomasH

    Mark² Guest

    Who was talking about compatibility?
     
    Mark², Oct 2, 2005
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  11. ThomasH

    Mark² Guest

    True, though the grip prices have never been very much... (about $160 up to
    this point...though the fully metal grip of the 5D is higher).

    Batteries are compatible from D30 all the way to the 5D.
    I don't see compatibility as a significant issue.
    Most folks who were waiting for full frame didn't invest in EF-S, so that's
    only a minor issue.
     
    Mark², Oct 2, 2005
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  12. ThomasH

    Mark² Guest

    George Carlin has been trying his entire career...to convince himself that
    there is no God.
    I notice he's still trying. -Seems to be a real issue in his life.
     
    Mark², Oct 2, 2005
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  13. ThomasH

    Skip M Guest

    It's pretty much the digital equivalent of the old EOS 5 (notice the
    similarity in naming?) slipping into the lineup below the 1 series, just
    like the older film camera did below the original EOS1 and later, the 1n.
    So, the Canon lineup goes (with old film equivalents in paren) Rebel XT
    (RebelG) 20D (ElanII) 5D (EOS5/A2/A2E) 1D/1DsMkII (EOS1n.)
    The old EOS 5 had the same control layout as the ElanII, and some of us
    prefer it to the 1 series buttons.
    And it ain't nostalgia for the sensor size, it is a need for it to utilize
    wide angle lenses to their full potential.
     
    Skip M, Oct 2, 2005
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  14. ThomasH

    Annika1980 Guest

    George Carlin has been trying his entire career...to convince himself that
    It seems you've been doing the opposite, with about the same results.
     
    Annika1980, Oct 2, 2005
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  15. ThomasH

    Skip M Guest

    Nah, he's just following in the footsteps of one of the greatest, Samuel
    Clemens...
     
    Skip M, Oct 2, 2005
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  16. ThomasH

    Mark² Guest

    Oh I don't know...
    God is a question I've dealt with for many years.
    George just strikes me as a guy who is afraid there might really be one, and
    so he sets out to reassure himself there isn't one. One observation I have
    about people like him is that I don't think he'd admit to this.

    Perhaps your comment is appropriate in that I do have difficulty with
    concept of God sometimes.
    I don't know *any* believer who hasn't had their doubts... If I had no
    doubt, I think I'd be a robot. I'm a skeptic...believe it or not. I can
    easily argue BOTH sides, because I am well aquainted with thoughts from each
    side. Both sides have their merits on different levels, so I don't mind
    those who argue against God. The only time it bugs me is when I'm convinced
    they aren't seeking an answer, rather simply seeking conflict. If they are
    interested in reaching a conclusion based on investigating, great. If they
    are only there to argue any point made, I quickly lose interest in them. If
    they want to get somewhere, then regardless of which side they are on, I can
    appreciate the thought.
     
    Mark², Oct 2, 2005
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  17. ThomasH

    Skip M Guest


    Well, SOMEBODY had to kick start this whole universe thing! <G>
     
    Skip M, Oct 2, 2005
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  18. ThomasH

    Mark² Guest

    Ya, I can't even get my carefully-designed-and-manufactured automatic
    starter to get my motorcycle going...
    ....I can only IMAGINE how tough it would have been to get a few floating
    chemicals to suddenly become "alive" without a little help.
    :)
     
    Mark², Oct 2, 2005
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  19. ThomasH

    ian lincoln Guest

    A Tsunami on boxing day? come on is that the benevolent god we all been
    taught about?
     
    ian lincoln, Oct 2, 2005
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  20. ThomasH

    Annika1980 Guest

    Well, SOMEBODY had to kick start this whole universe thing! <G>

    Why? And who created this somebody?

    It seems much more likely that man created God, and not the reverse.
     
    Annika1980, Oct 2, 2005
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