The PeterN-Sailboat Variations ;-)

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Savageduck, Aug 23, 2012.

  1. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    First, my regular server is acting up for posts so I am resorting to
    freenews.netfront.net for this.

    OK! I guess I am about to stir the pot some here. I was somewhat
    critical of the noise due to over-sharpening in Peter's Sailboat/bridge
    image, and I thought I could do something different. So I asked him to
    share his original NEF with me so I could try my stuff.

    What Peter didn't tell any of us, was what he was trying to fix with
    his new sharpening technique. The original is to put it bluntly totally
    OOF.

    Peter, was this intentionally OOF, or just one of those things?

    The bottom line is, sharpening techniques are not going to restore
    focus without imparting some other damage, in this case it was noise.
    So I took a slightly different approach and have come up with some
    variations for all to consider. I did what I could to take advantage of
    the OOF rather than fix it.
    Peter's original unadjusted original is DSC8572-Aw.jpg.

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    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lx56l61b7bbj1se/ceN4oDR9yB/Shared Images/USENET SHARE/PeterN-Variations
     
    Savageduck, Aug 23, 2012
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  2. Savageduck

    PeterN Guest

    I doubt that it was a focus issue. If you look at the EXIF data you will
    see that I was shooting at f/22 at one 1/125, from a moving boat. That
    would definitely account for the lack of sharpness in the originals.I
    will try to send you links to other images later today, or tomorrow.
     
    PeterN, Aug 23, 2012
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  3. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    It looked OOF from the moment I opened it in ACR, and no standard
    sharpening was going to fix the problem without introducing noise of
    some type.

    From what I could see when checking the entire image, there were
    distinct OOF issues that might have been exacerbated by the stopped
    down lens and camera movement. I could see movement issues with vehicle
    lights on the bridge. However, in DSC8572, with the sailboat and the
    occupants of the sailboat I don't see a movement issue, but an OOF
    problem.

    At f/22 there could well be some diffraction imparted and might not
    have been a good choice to use, perhaps f/12 would have been better.

    Let's take a look at the others.
     
    Savageduck, Aug 23, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    #8, the aged photo, is interesting. I like that. The rest of them
    should be dumped overboard.
     
    tony cooper, Aug 23, 2012
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  5. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    I'll forward the NEF to you. See what you can come up with.
     
    Savageduck, Aug 23, 2012
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  6. Savageduck

    tony cooper Guest

    I have it. I'm not interested. I liked PeterN's original, noise or
    grain and all. I don't think I could improve it.

    I can come up with a differently processed version of any photo, but
    to be interested I have to believe that I can come up with something
    as good or better. I can't here.
     
    tony cooper, Aug 24, 2012
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  7. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    OK.
     
    Savageduck, Aug 24, 2012
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  8. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Just for the Hell of it, I thought I would try a "tin type" effect and
    got this;
    < http://db.tt/6ZnnKHee >
     
    Savageduck, Aug 24, 2012
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  9. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    Savageduck, Aug 24, 2012
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    Noons Guest

    Savageduck wrote,on my timestamp of 24/08/2012 4:33 AM:
    hmmm.... Wouldn't it be a lot less time wasting and productive to just take a
    better shot? Not every image needs hours of churning to recover it, somehow.
    Justy lose the bugger and get a better one. Simple. Faster. And likely a lot nicer.
     
    Noons, Aug 24, 2012
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  11. Savageduck

    Savageduck Guest

    I agree. However this was an exercise in saving an image which should
    have been rejected for any number of reasons. This particular file is
    probably beyond any photo realistic recovery, so that only leaves an
    abstract, or artistic solution.
    ....and as a retired phart, I have the time.
     
    Savageduck, Aug 24, 2012
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