The Photoshop Family

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Sandman, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. Sandman

    Whisky-dave Guest

    It's not the same app, photshop elements is differnt from photshop CC
    unless of course you're right and they are teh same app. and adobe is charging people more for an app labled CC than they do for the app. labled elements.
    I always thpought they called it elements because it has elements of the full photoshop, in a similar why the lite versions of the past were labled.
    You know how muller lite IS differnt from muller, same with budwiser and all the other beers and concotions, you can even buy lite cheese.
    yes they are differnt products not necessarily differnt types of user but perhaps slightly differnt reasons why a user would choose on over the other.

    or are you suggesting the split is bewteen amateurs and professionals ?

    Yep, but when the iphone was first released it was describe as being a 3 in1 device so you can use yuor iphone as an ipod and even as an ipad.
    Yes if you're not fussed by specifics, then an ipod is also a computer haveyou not heard thsoe silly questions people get asked in how many computersyou have a a person answers one or two and then the person is informed their washing, machine, cooker, watch, TV, phone, even fridges and freezers.
    Even credit cards.

    The ipod came first so really the iphone is just an ipod with a phone.

    Yes which means if you ordered photoshop and they sent you photoshop elements you wouldn't be too happy even worse if you got sent photoshop touch, orperhaps photshop lite.
    Whisky-dave, Feb 20, 2014
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  2. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    For the same reason Apple isn't naming all their computers "Mac", even if
    all of them are Macs.

    Mac Pro
    Mac mini
    Macbook Pro
    Macbook Air

    Seems familliar, doesn't it? Sounds a bit like how Adobe names their
    Photoshop products.

    Photoshop CC
    Photoshop Lightroom 5
    Photoshop Elements 12
    Photoshop Touch
    Who cares what you don't have on your iPad?
    Again, what does this have to do with anything??
    So "Photoshop CC" isn't Photoshop, nor is "Photoshop CS6". Basically, Adobe
    has no Photoshop product.
    Most idiotic argument ever.
    If it were a brand name in a product portfolio, then yes. Any more
    irrelevant examples to illsutrate your ignorance?
    They don't.
    You really love making yourself look like a complete moron.
    Just as Adobe added qualifiers when they introduced more members to their
    Photoshop Family. As you haven't noted - they don't have a product that is
    named just "Photoshop", just as Apple no longer sells a product named
    merely "iPod" like they once did.
    You're being more incomprehensible than usual.
    If you own an iPod touch, you can claim to own a:

    1. iPod
    2. iPod touch
    3. Portable music player

    If you're a user of Photoshop Elements you can say you're a user of:

    1. Photoshop
    2. Photoshop Elements
    3. Graphics editing program
    Only if you think that if someone says they have a PC or an iPod or a Mac
    that they have a group of PC's or a group of iPods or a group of Macs.

    Boy, this entire "English" thing is really really hard for you.
    Sandman, Feb 20, 2014
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  3. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    It's not the same app, photshop elements is differnt from photshop CC
    unless of course you're right and they are teh same app. and adobe is
    charging people more for an app labled CC than they do for the app. labled

    the two apps are not significantly different. this is not a complicated

    once again: there are two versions of the same app, targeted to two
    different types of users. elements lacks some features that a non-pro
    will never use or even understand, like cmyk and has a couple of minor
    features that a pro doesn't care about.
    that's basically the idea.
    basically yes, but it's not a clean break. there will be some overlap,
    and despite what the nitpickers claim, it does not change anything.

    an advanced amateur might decide to get the full version, just as a pro
    might not need all of the pro features and save some money by getting
    the original iphone was announced as being a phone, a wide screen ipod
    and an internet communication device, all in one package.

    that means it's not just another ipod.
    the ipod touch absolutely is a computer, as is an ipad and iphone.

    they are just very small computers that fit in your pocket and are
    substantially more portable than older computers.

    this is something that really pisses off the apple bashers, because
    when you count computers and not just macs, apple has a fairly
    substantial market share.

    in fact, there are more devices running android or ios than there are
    running windows.
    the iphone is different than the classic ipods (and for the nitpickers
    out there who are itching to argue, that's not the same as the ipod

    the iphone *includes* ipod functionality, along with a phone and much

    the classic ipods do not run apps (other than a couple of games on some
    of them).

    the difference should be obvious.

    in fact, they renamed the ipod app on ios devices to music, since
    that's what it does.
    if you order the wrong thing, you have only yourself to blame.
    Guest, Feb 20, 2014
  4. Sandman

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Evidently, nothing but "advanced amateurs" hang out in this newsgroup
    since at least 3 or more regulars have the full version of Photoshop.
    Expand that survey - no airplane ticket required - to our camera clubs
    (if we belong to one) and it will be found that most are "advanced
    amateurs", too.

    I guess we didn't check with nospam before drinking the Kool-Aid.
    Tony Cooper, Feb 20, 2014
  5. Sandman

    PeterN Guest

    Do you realize how much money the advertising industry would save if
    they hired nospam to do their market research.
    PeterN, Feb 20, 2014
  6. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    out of how many millions who don't?
    Guest, Feb 20, 2014
  7. Sandman

    Tony Cooper Guest

    There are millions who hang out in this newsgroup? Lottsa lurkers?

    Just another example of nospam's inability to read for meaning and
    reply with a non sequitur. Of course, even though his meaning is
    quite inaccurate as a response, he will claim to have been
    Tony Cooper, Feb 20, 2014
  8. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    The funny part here is that Tony actually think he's countering something
    instead of verifying. Since usenet is pretty much dead these days, it's
    pretty safe to assume that no photo amateurs would venture to these parts
    of the internet, which means that it's pretty likely that the "prosumers"
    would hang out on usenet.

    Likewise, people that belong to a camera club are far more likely to take
    their photography to the next level and use tools accordingly than those
    that do not.

    Count this as another "win" for Tony.
    Sandman, Feb 20, 2014
  9. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    Willful misinterpretation or just reading comprehension problems? I vote
    for the former since it's a classic troll technique.
    Ironic, Tony.
    Sandman, Feb 20, 2014
  10. Sandman

    Eric Stevens Guest

    the two apps are not significantly different. this is not a complicated
    There is more than a screen filled with differences. Apart from that
    there is no significant difference.
    Not if I had been relying on your ability to distinguish in speech one
    product from another.
    Eric Stevens, Feb 20, 2014
  11. Sandman

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Is this the Swedish definition of "amateur"?
    'Cause I don't of any professional photographers who hang out here.
    That's a new one on me. A "prosumer" is a portmanteau of
    "professional" and "consumer" that I've always seen used to describe a
    product that fulfills the upper needs of the amateur photographer and
    the lower needs of the professional photographer. However, if the
    "Popinjay's Dictionary of Snitsnak Definitions" provides a definition
    for the word as a description of a person, then go for it.
    My stick has many notches.
    Tony Cooper, Feb 20, 2014
  12. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    i see you have a reading comprehension problem.
    the person who has an inability to read for meaning would be you.
    Guest, Feb 20, 2014
  13. Sandman

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I know, I know, it's another one of your "Don't read what I say. Read
    what I meant." moments.
    Tony Cooper, Feb 20, 2014
  14. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    No, read what he wrote. See, you had to know there was an option you
    missed. As usual.
    Sandman, Feb 20, 2014
  15. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    if you did more than just count lines, you'd see that the differences
    aren't anything the typical consumer will need or use, or even

    heck, even pros don't often need cmyk, especially since epson printers
    are rgb devices.

    adobe knows *far* more about their user base than you or i ever will
    and knows what features their users want, which is why they offer two
    versions, one for pros and one for non-pros.
    wrong on that too.
    Guest, Feb 21, 2014
  16. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    i can't help it if you don't understand english.

    the meaning is very clear, but if you aren't sure, you could ask for

    since you didn't, that tells me you are intentionally twisting it so it
    means what you want it to mean just so you can add another notch to
    your stick.

    either that, or you really are stupid.
    Guest, Feb 21, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

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    PeterN Guest

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  19. Sandman

    Eric Stevens Guest

    Not really. Tony had already defined the context of remark: "hang out
    _in_this_newsgroup_". (Emphasis mine)I think we would all be
    astonished if there multiple millions of members in this news group so
    when you responded to Tony by writing "out of how many millions who
    don't" you were missing Tony's original context and changing it to one
    of your own.

    Tony responded with the question "There are millions who hang out in
    this newsgroup? Lottsa lurkers?". Rather than taking the hint which
    Tony had given you, you responded with the accustation "i see you have
    a reading comprehension problem". In fact you have the reading problem
    in that you missed Tony's original "hang out in this newsgroup" and
    failed to understand the significance of Tony's rhetorical question
    "There are millions who hang out in this newsgroup?".

    I expect this will be all too complicated for you. Please accept that
    we have already interchanged a large number of posts on this subject
    and I have eventually said "I've had enough of this".
    Eric Stevens, Feb 21, 2014
  20. Sandman

    Eric Stevens Guest

    That's right. They don't exist.
    Surely you are not now claiming that Photoshop is intended to output
    only to Epson printers? That would be a pleasant surprise to Adobe.
    They could do away in the color preference files such things as "U.S.
    Web Coated (SWOP) v2", dot gain settings and "Uncoated FOGRA29 (ISO
    12647-2:2004)". My graphic designer daughter will be pleased too. The
    next time she gets involved with the preparation of an Annual Report
    she can forget about the complexities of 6-color Heidelberg presses
    with spot colors.

    You obviously have read very little about printing from Photoshop or
    you would not make such a silly remarrk.
    Which they distinguish by giving them different names.
    Eric Stevens, Feb 21, 2014
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