The Photoshop Family

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Sandman, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    what the hell are you talking about?
    where the **** do you come up with this shit?

    nowhere did i say photoshop *only* outputs to epson printers.

    seriously, where the **** do you come up with this?
    all of that in photoshop elements?
    there's absolutely nothing silly whatsoever about what i said.

    however, there's plenty silly and outright stupid about what you said.
    obviously it needs a name distinction, however, the product is still
    essentially the same.

    again, two versions of the same app.

    simple concept, but apparently not simple enough for some people.
     
    Guest, Feb 21, 2014
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  2. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    this may come to you as a huge surprise, but adobe markets photoshop to
    far more people than those in this newsgroup.

    therefore, millions could *only* have referred to adobe customers and
    not usenet participants.

    then tony comes along and makes up his own meaning so that he can start
    in with his usual bullshit.

    he is nothing more than argumentative troll who has nothing better to
    do than find *something* about what i post to argue about.

    furthermore, i did not change anything, so saying i changed anything is
    a flat out lie.
    what hint?

    there's no need for hints when the meaning is clear.

    either he failed to understand the obvious or he's trolling.
    yet you keep posting.

    and there's nothing complicated about any of this.
     
    Guest, Feb 21, 2014
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  3. Sandman

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Look, nospam, if you can't phrase your comments so the meaning is
    clear, stop the belly-aching when it's pointed out that you've tripped
    over your dick again. Just STFU. You embarrass yourself more by your
    defense than you do when you come out with these clangers.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 21, 2014
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  4. Sandman

    Tony Cooper Guest

    And this will come as a huge surprise to you: the simple solution is
    to write the right thing the first time. You don't seem to be able to
    manage that.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 21, 2014
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  5. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    Eric is struggling with basic English yet again. Tony claim that nothing
    but advanced amateurs hang out in this group and nospam replies with "out
    of who many millions who don't". The context was "in this newsgroup" and
    the "who don't" was clearly about the ones *not* in this newsgroup.

    The meaning was clear, and if Tony really didn't understand it (which he
    did, he just wanted to troll some more) then he could have asked. But of
    course he didn't - he found a chance to play his usual games. Luckily, he
    has you to help him out.
    It's the same context - you're just unable to understand it.
     
    Sandman, Feb 21, 2014
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  6. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    Only problem for Andreas - nospam id write the "right thing" the first
    time. Ooops.
     
    Sandman, Feb 21, 2014
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  7. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    Haha! My irony meter just exploded.
     
    Sandman, Feb 21, 2014
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  8. Sandman

    Eric Stevens Guest

    So you weren't responding to Tony's comment. That's nice.
    He didn't have to make it up. He used it when he opened the subject.
    Please read what I wrote and identify whee I lied.
    Duh, duh, duh, duh ,,,,
    True. But it depends upon whom it is clear to. That's why Tony gave
    you one.
    True.
     
    Eric Stevens, Feb 21, 2014
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  9. Sandman

    Eric Stevens Guest

    "the differences (that) aren't anything the typical consumer will need
    or use, or even understand." Your words. Your idea.
    Then where did you get the idea that "even pros don't often need cmyk,
    especially since epson printers are rgb devices"? If pros don't often
    need CMYK how do they output to offset-printers, for example?
    Your own words. "even pros don't often need cmyk, especially since
    epson printers are rgb devices".
    Nope. But they are in Photshop XX. But not in Elements.
    Your remark implied that the majority of Photoshop output is RGB via
    Epson printers. If you had read *anything* about printing from
    Photoshop you would be aware of the amount of effoort devoted to
    commercial printing using anything but RGB or Epson printers.
    Bullshit. Read http://forums.adobe.com/message/4568487#4568487
     
    Eric Stevens, Feb 21, 2014
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  10. Sandman

    PeterN Guest


    Careful. nospam will get upset over the onset of the mention of offset.
     
    PeterN, Feb 21, 2014
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  11. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    Haha, classic! Eric now - using his own logic - claims that all
    professionals output to offset-printers.
     
    Sandman, Feb 21, 2014
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  12. Sandman

    Whisky-dave Guest

    but not a iPod nano, a iPod classic or a shuffle.

    Which proves my point saying you own an ipod means little, it's too generic to enable another to give you advice info or help.

    But then agin aperhaps that's because I'm used to being more accurate about describing things.

    so they wouldn't be an ipad user how about a computer user ?

    Not as hard as it seem for you.
     
    Whisky-dave, Feb 21, 2014
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  13. Sandman

    George Kerby Guest


    Looks like it been a long night in the cat box with all you boys slingin'
    shit, LOL!!!
     
    George Kerby, Feb 21, 2014
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  14. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    Just as you can't say you use "Photoshop CC" when you're running "Photoshop
    Elements".

    How can you fail to see the similarities?? How can this simple concept
    elude you so much? "iPod" is the product family name, just as "Photoshop"
    is the product family name.

    If you own an "iPod touch", you own an "iPod", if you use "Photoshop
    Elements", you're using "Photoshop".
    That may be so, but it's still not actuall *incorrect* to say you own an
    iPod when you own one of the iPod models available.
    Of course not - you're always very very very inaccurate when describing
    things. One always have to do a lot of guessing when trying to parse what
    you write and trying to find out what you actually might mean.
    See, good example of you being totally incomprehensible. What does an iPad
    or a Computer have to do with anything I said above? Nothing, of course.
    Compared to you, I'm a freaking English professor.
     
    Sandman, Feb 21, 2014
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  15. Sandman

    Sandman Guest

    It's all our resident trolls can do, normal conversations is not in the
    repertoir.
     
    Sandman, Feb 21, 2014
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  16. Sandman

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Whenever you say what the sentence was "clearly about", and have to
    tell us what it was clearly about, you are negating that the sentence
    was clear. Clear sentences don't need explaining.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 21, 2014
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  17. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    there is nothing unclear about what i wrote. nothing whatsoever.
     
    Guest, Feb 21, 2014
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  18. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    how much do those cost to replace?

    you must have gone through a bunch of those by now.
     
    Guest, Feb 21, 2014
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  19. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    yet another thing you got wrong. it's adobe's idea and they know way
    the hell more about what the typical consumer will use.

    do you really think the typical consumer is going to use cmyk, when all
    they have is an rgb printer?

    there's a reason why photoshop elements doesn't have cmyk, and that's
    because the target market doesn't need it. simple concept.
    if they need to use cmyk, they do. if not, they don't.

    since epson printers are rgb devices, they don't need cmyk. it's a very
    simple concept.

    i also didn't say pros never ever output to cmyk. some do, and those
    that do will use photoshop cs/cc (or some other tool), or they let the
    printshop do it for them, which is often the better option. in the
    latter case, they don't need the feature.
    see above. learn to read.
    which confirms exactly what i said.

    the sad thing is you don't understand this well enough to even realize
    it. you just like to argue.
    the majority of output *is* to rgb devices.

    for those with trouble with words, majority means not all, so those who
    need to output to a cmyk printer (and are not letting the printshop do
    it for them) will need cs/cc or some other method to do the cmyk
    conversion.
    the list of features that are common between the two is *much*, *much*
    longer than that.

    in other words, there is more that's the same than is not the same. yet
    another simple concept.
     
    Guest, Feb 21, 2014
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  20. Sandman

    Guest Guest

    what i wrote was correct.

    but if you are confused, the simple solution is to ask 'can you clarify
    what you said?'

    instead, you assume i said something i didn't actually say and then go
    off like a madman.
     
    Guest, Feb 21, 2014
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